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To: kattracks
funny how the ap gets first person accounts of ANY enemy of the U.S.A. but can't get any facts correct.

Facts? What a facts?
2 posted on 05/02/2004 2:21:50 PM PDT by steplock (http://www.gohotsprings.com)
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To: steplock
Uh - it's possible that THIS person's story is one of simply being searched. Wouldn't a strip search be sorta mandatory?

The weakness of this man's story doesn't lessen the severity of the charges leveled in the New Yorker story or the pictures released by CBS. These pictures do not appear to be strip searches, but prison guards getting their jollies at the expense of those in their custody. If reality mathces appearances, it's wrong, wrong, wrong. Professional soldiers do not behave this way.
9 posted on 05/02/2004 2:30:25 PM PDT by bin2baghdad
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To: Beau Schott; antonia; daisymeme
 As they did during the The Clinton administration; his apologists have effectively colored the dialogue by drowning out the facts in a sea of spin, and they have even been able to change the dynamic of the facts to suit their own diabolical manifesto.

Military institutional policy.

Fact:

  1. A young man who saw what was going on was able to report the problem immediately. The military took immediate action.
  2. The idiots who were doing this were locked up, the crime was investigated and they are, as we speak on their way to trial.
  3. These photos, that we have been seeing, are photos that were evidently stolen from the militaries evidence file to prosecute these cases.
  4. There is no wrong doing on the part of the military here, only that of a few individual who were acting as individuals, not doing the military's work.
  5. We can not hold other responsible for what another individual chooses to do; especially when the 'others' have done everything that they can do to stop the crime as soon as they knew about it. 
  6. Blaming Rumsfeld, is like blaming a police chief for a crime happening in his precinct, after his officers have already picked up the criminal, have him sitting in jail awaiting trial.

When the Democrats fearless leader was caught red handed lying in a court of law, not only as the president of the United States of America, but as a lawyer, (for which he later lost his license to practice) he made the country go through a politicized impeachment process and still would not step down.  When clinton finally left office, he spent the last hours of that time pardoning criminals who had paid him off.

When we bring up example from the clinton administration to demonstrate the democrat's lack of sincerity; to show that they are care nothing about the principles involved; only about the opportunity to bring their hated enemy, ( the hated enemy is the one who does not think emotionally and opportunistically like them). they will say something like 'two wrongs do not make a right ~ nor do more wrongs make anything right. Ironically, President Clinton refused to admit that he committed crimes that he obviously committed (perjury and obstruction of justice).

67 posted on 05/08/2004 9:10:44 AM PDT by thatcher ("To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it."~ GK Chesterton)
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