A Toomey/Specter Epitaph

self | 05/01/04 | joanie-f

[NittanyLion]

Proof positive: California

Weren't we just through this on another thread? The bottom line is that you attribute any GOP failure to a "too conservative" approach. This speaks more to your underlying distrust of conservatism's appeal than it does to the facts of any one election. So long as you believe only liberalism can attract voters, you will continue to advocate the GOP's slide to the left.

[Sun]

If you vote for either Hoeffel or Specter, it tells the parties that you don't mind if a candidate is a pro-abortion liberal. Isn't it better to vote 3rd party, write-in a ballot or not vote at all for the U.S. senate race?

[onyx]

I hope my fellow Georgians take heed of it in the upcoming Senatorial election... and VOTE CAIN




You ought to ping your GA list.
HERMAN CAIN must win the nomination!

[joanie-f]

Politics is the art of compromise. Principles can never be compromised.

Amen.

Compromise is an 'art' that has to recognize the fine line between that which can be relinquished in degree and that which cannot be relinquished at all. With honest men, principles are never 'compromisable' entities.

[joanie-f]

Sometimes looking at the big picture in politics make you sick.

Agreed.

P.S. Glad to hear that your granddaughter is home safe and sound. :)

[SiliconValleyGuy]

As regards President Bush's and Senator Santorum's recent endorsement of Arlen Specter, I believe thick political fog took precedence over the Founders' vision. They will have to answer for that, to their constituents and their consciences.

You can say that again.

[joanie-f]

I don't know about the refrigerator thing, but thanks for the kind comments, Art. :)

[joanie-f]

Okay.

As regards President Bush's and Senator Santorum's recent endorsement of Arlen Specter, I believe thick political fog took precedence over the Founders' vision. They will have to answer for that, to their constituents and their consciences.

Happy?

[SiliconValleyGuy]

Yep. ;)

You have mail.

[fatima]

Thanks joanie-f,She is back from Iraq and also fell in love in Iraq with Ken from the 4 ID,they must go back,I met him on Easter.:)

[brityank]

Sad thing is, what I see happening in the Republican party today is what I saw with the Democrats in the late '60's. I really liked D. P. Moynihan until the Johnson crew choked him off and bought his soul. All of Dan's predictions on the damage that the 'Great Society' would spawn have come true, and we are the worse for it.

And the complaint is always: "Why don't better people enter politics?" How many would willingly put up with the vehement slander and derision that have become part and parcel of the political venue? No one I know.

[Avoiding_Sulla]

So long as you believe only liberalism can attract voters, you [FairOpinion] will continue to advocate the GOP's slide to the left.

You've run into her before I bet. The cheif RINO booster?

[cmotormac44]

what a 'brilliant' statement---vote for a demonrat senator to 'get even' with Specter---someday you will learn that it hurts to 'hold your nose' while voting for the 'less of two evils' but it is necessary----

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

Megadose kool-aid drinker bump...

[NittanyLion]

I ran into her just this morning, when she was unable to remember the name of Specter's opponent in the general election. That didn't stop her from telling the rest of us that Toomey had no chance in November had he won.

You know, against...ummm...whatshisname...

[ServesURight]

Yes, all the fine "grass roots conservatives" are the best friends the Democrats could have.

Thanks for sharing this condenscending and arrogant comment.

When Spectator loses to Hoeffel please don't blame us lowly, piddly grass-root conservatives who refused to vote for him.

[Lancey Howard]

So long as you believe only liberalism can attract voters, you will continue to advocate the GOP's slide to the left.

Well said!
On the 'Arnold' threads last year this attitude was referred to as "surrender-monkey" Republicanism.
The motto was, "If you can't beat the Democrats, you may as well join them."

[ServesURight]

someday you will learn that it hurts to 'hold your nose' while voting for the 'less of two evils' but it is necessary

Sorry, but I'd rather see Hoeffel win than Specter, who'll do far more damage as Chairman of the SJC.

Besides, there's no difference between the two anyway. At least Hoeffel's a nice guy.

[joanie-f]

And the complaint is always: "Why don't better people enter politics?" How many would willingly put up with the vehement slander and derision that have become part and parcel of the political venue? No one I know.

I agree. Over the years, a very good friend of mine has repeatedly been approached (by many influential people) to run for the state house. She always gives it careful consideration, but, despite the fact that she is a patriot, always comes up with the same answer: It’s not worth it. There is too much dishonesty, unprincipled compromise, and mud-slinging. Those things would interrupt her sleep. And the amount of good she could do would be far outweighed by the garbage – and the corruption of otherwise good people – that she would have to deal with.

Toomey is one of the exceptions to the rule (as was Reagan). A good, decent, principled man (are you aware that his opponent used the fact against him that he was often the lone dissenting vote on many congressional votes? To me, that is a sign of courage and conviction!). Considering his goodness and courage, it’s amazing that he has gotten as far as he has in our corrupt political/electoral system. And we haven’t heard the last of him. Those who are urging him to run for governor don’t comprehend that he has more important things to do. The governorship would be beneath his abilities.

Thanks for the insightful comments!

~ joanie

[prisoner6]

No, not for me at least. Abortion is not my top issue. (Although I AM anti-abortion. BTW I use that terminology because I refuse to soft pedel or "PC" my stance. I am anti-abortion, period.)

My top issue is to stop our country's slide into the cesspool of socialism. If we keep sending RINO's back to congress the slide contines. W slowed it, and for that I am thankful. He has been a wonderful leader, accent on LEADER!

However I shudder at the thought of his second term. That is usually where a president spends more and expands social programs.

Now you might say, "But pris...how does electing a liberal

(Again a term I do not like to use. Liberal at one time was a political opinion along the lines of Jefferson. Today liberal = socialist, and socialist is the transition to communisim.)

like Hoeffel help? Wouldn't it be better to put Arlen back? At least he's a pubbie."

And I would say no. Hoeffel will be a junior member of congress. I doubt he coud do much damage. Arlen however...NOT EVEN 12 HOURS AFTER THE ELECTION...held a press conference in Center City Philly and blasted Bush! Said he intended to FIGHT AGAINST W on many conservative hot buttons.

With his seniority he could do much more damage than Hoeffel, IMO.

Of course PA will once again have to bite the bulllet and put up with him, but heck like we haven't done THAT before.

This is the belly of the beast, as far as socialiasm and unions go. Cripes...look at how the unions love Arlen!

It's way past time for him to go. In the >relative, short term it will be tough for PA, and if the pubbies lose in the senate it will be harder on W. So be it sez I. In the long run it will be better for the country.

I refuse to bow one more time to the RINO overlords who are starting to whine already. They think nothing of throwing a bone - or more - to the left, but what do they give to conservatives?

Nope! NO MORE!

prisoner6