"In other words - suspected terrorist detainees were being given the third degree via psychological not physical abuse to get them to break - what went wrong is that they allowed the goobers to take snapshots (I guess intelligence was not there to supervise the goobers 24/7). "
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YOU GOT IT!!!!
It is amazing how a vast majority of FReepers fell into the trap of the liberal media.
The reason for this type of method is because public nudity is a major humiliation in Muslim societies.
""The worst thing in Arab culture is for a man to be naked in front of another man," said Gulshen Beyatli, director of Arabs Without Borders in San Francisco."
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2004/05/01/MNG9M6E9C51.DTL I read somewhere, unfortunately I didn't save THAT link, that prisoners were forbidden to talk with each other, and when they did anyway, this was their punishment.
From one of the incredibly few articles, which even mention who the prisoners were:
"The US military now holds several thousand prisoners at Abu Ghraib, most of them rounded up on suspicion of carrying out attacks against US-led forces."
http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/s1098210.htm And from another article:
"60 Minutes also quoted, however, from an e-mail which Frederick reportedly sent to his family, in which he said of Iraqi prisoners: 'We've had a very high rate with our styles of getting them to break; they usually end up breaking within hours.' "
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/articles/10521131?source=Daily But they don't have lawyers! Have you no humanity? Every detainee should be assigned at least a US taxpayer provided public defender, three UN observers, and $1M cash for their defense. I can't believe the attitudes of some on this forum. Really. It's just disgraceful. :O)
This attitude about being seen naked is very ancient in that part of the world--see Genesis 9.20-27 (story of Noah's drunkenness and cursing Canaan because Canaan's father Ham had seen Noah naked) and Herodotus,
The Histories, Book I, Chapter 10.
Herodotus points out that in Lydia and other barbarian nations, it is a source of great shame even for a man to be seen naked--contrary to Greek practice, of course, since they engaged in athletic contests naked.