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88-CRIME Offers Cash For Border-Crossing Tips
Arizona Daily Star ^ | April 30, 2004 | Michael Marizco

Posted on 05/01/2004 9:50:44 AM PDT by DumpsterDiver

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The Mexican government applauds the program - so long as the situation doesn't get out of hand.

Officials with both 88-CRIME and the Border Patrol said they are not interested in having illegal border crossers being turned in.

Whatever...

1 posted on 05/01/2004 9:50:45 AM PDT by DumpsterDiver
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2 posted on 05/01/2004 9:52:46 AM PDT by DumpsterDiver
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3 posted on 05/01/2004 10:22:25 AM PDT by gubamyster
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Now to see just how widely this gets publicized first for the states bordering Mexico then the ones bordering Canada.
4 posted on 05/01/2004 10:39:00 AM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: DumpsterDiver
That Bramhall guy should not have let the race card be played without any rebuttal. Whenever the Left's ace is played it should be instantly and vigourously counterattacked otherwise it taints everything, just like skunk scent at a garden party.
5 posted on 05/01/2004 11:03:25 AM PDT by junta
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The Left's Ace:


6 posted on 05/01/2004 11:17:28 AM PDT by NewRomeTacitus
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That's good.
7 posted on 05/01/2004 11:20:10 AM PDT by junta
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Whenever the Left's ace is played it should be instantly and vigourously counterattacked ...

I agree.

"I think it's going to result in people being suspicious of each other and snooping around each other," said Kat Rodriguez of Derechos Humanos. "It's going to definitely play on racial stereotypes."

The more illegal aliens there are from Mexico, the more "suspicious" people become. With millions of illegals here from Mexico the "racial stereotype" is becoming a fact.

8 posted on 05/01/2004 11:27:25 AM PDT by DumpsterDiver
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Accusations of racism are not born of real outrage or upset sensibilities, but is just one of a list of tactics to dis-empower conservative opposition. Once an opponent has been "tagged" with the term "racist" that opponent is put on defensive footing, forced to waste time and effort rebutting the smear.

That's why the accusation of racism flies mechanically from the mouths of liberals whenever logic and reason threaten to counter their lies. Note how recently even Hispanic-descended citizens who defend America's sovereignty are subject to this slander.
9 posted on 05/01/2004 11:30:54 AM PDT by NewRomeTacitus
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The Mexican government applauds the program - so long as the situation doesn't get out of hand.

And just what constitutes "out of hand" I wonder? Sucessful? Actually working?

Or could it be that this opens a pipline of information and tips that the mexicans can't bribe?

10 posted on 05/01/2004 11:34:41 AM PDT by TLI (...........ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA..........)
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And that is why the lefties must be vigorously attacked when they spew the race card, and I'm not talking about Trent Lott whimpering or the "I have black friends" mealy mouth crap but strong blunt words. As a prediction I'll say that the first articulate conservative politician who can verbally destroy the "white guilt" complex and the race card weapon stands to gather more power than what's imaginable.
11 posted on 05/01/2004 11:42:27 AM PDT by junta
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And just what constitutes "out of hand" I wonder? Sucessful? Actually working?

You have it pegged correctly.

12 posted on 05/01/2004 11:42:35 AM PDT by DumpsterDiver
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They're all so worried about offending Mexicans. I don't see any officials too concerned about how offended Americans are at the invasion of their communities. Where is the concern for those of us who are putting up with the mess??
13 posted on 05/01/2004 11:56:57 AM PDT by janetgreen (Wake Up, President Bush - California has been invaded!)
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"Officials with both 88-CRIME and the Border Patrol said they are not interested in having illegal border crossers being turned in."

Even considering the context that is a very disturbing statement from a person who's duties include securing the border.

14 posted on 05/01/2004 12:17:18 PM PDT by NewRomeTacitus
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Even considering the context that is a very disturbing statement from a person who's duties include securing the border.

Add this to the mix:

...statements reported April 27 in the Houston Chronicle by BICE Agent in Charge Joseph Webber, and U.S. Representative Gene Green (D-TX), who called a special meeting to announce that they had no plans to arrest, deport, or in any way hassle the scores of aliens illegally living and working in the Houston area. Some 400 people attended the meeting.

And a big Amen! to this:

"The job of federal immigration authorities is not to assure illegal aliens they can work and travel without fear of arrest or deportation," said Tancredo

15 posted on 05/01/2004 12:53:25 PM PDT by DumpsterDiver
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I was so shocked I felt compelled to do a take on "The Twighlight Zone".

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1127293/posts

16 posted on 05/01/2004 1:01:07 PM PDT by NewRomeTacitus
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"The Twighlight Zone".

A very nice piece of work. It needs to be mailed to more than just a few congress-critters. (Not that they care.)

17 posted on 05/01/2004 1:45:30 PM PDT by DumpsterDiver
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Thank you. I got the amazing opportunity to speak with Mr. Tancredo alone for a few minutes and was surprised to learn that he wasn't as aware of all the malarkey going on as much as we in the informal FR illegal immigration group are. His interest in my recounting some of the stories that you and I now regard as old hat made me realize how even the best people we have representing us are insulated by the demands on their time and attention (and well-meaning assistants trying to filter their boss's work-load).

So, you are absolutely right that we need to communicate often to our Congressmen and do so repeatedly if we hope for our message to eventually be recieved and considered. Mr. Tancredo confirmed my suspicion that written letters mailed on paper get more attention now due to email being abused so badly, so write away.

I've been hesitant to talk about this since I picked up a whiff of "Yeah, sure you did" attitude from other members after posting the speech. I stand by what I report and have no reason to lie about anything (I was once admonished for posting my real name too often, not considering the bad people out there who would use that info against me). I'm as respectful of Mr. Tancredo's privacy as I would anyone who spoke with me in the spirit of confidentiality. I will say that he fervently believes in his cause and is punished severely for taking the moral high road. Colorado is blessed to have him as a Representative.

Sorry for running on; this has been bugging me for a while. I'm open to suggestions on moral obligations versus "scoops". I'm also a bit more addled than usual fighting Bell's palsy, though unlike terminal ignorance it's almost always recoverable (Mom was right, it froze that way).
18 posted on 05/01/2004 3:16:23 PM PDT by NewRomeTacitus
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I'd happy to forward some dirt on illegal immigration, my mother is getting for me, to Mr.Tancredo.
19 posted on 05/01/2004 3:20:55 PM PDT by cyborg
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We build this idea up in our minds that the folks we see in the media have powers beyond mere mortals as ourselves and are privy to knowledge denied the common rabble, when often quite the opposite is true. This helps explain (to some extent) some of the totally boneheaded moves our recent presidents have made. George Bush the Senior was so insulated for so long that he had no idea what the price of some common groceries were (and the press had a field day on that one).

The founders wanted our representatives to roughly represent ourselves and not be dominated by professional politicians, attorneys and scalawags who couldn't earn a living on their own merits. Currently there are some up there who fit in all three of those categories.
20 posted on 05/01/2004 3:51:55 PM PDT by NewRomeTacitus
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