[FairOpinion]

"Why is it that torture in any circumstance is ok with you? "


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Have we been inundated by Al Qaeda moles or something?!

Don't you think torture is quite justified to get terrorists to tell about imminent terror plots against us, which may kill hundreds or more people?

How do you think Jordan got the terrorists to tell them all about their chemical attack plan, which may have killed close to 100,000 people, if it had succeeded?

Do you think terrorists shouldn't be tortured, we should let them kills tens of thousands of innocents instead?

[Razwan]

I dont think that anyone should be tortured-
You seem to equate non-acceptance of torture with love of the enemy...bad train of logic.

Here's a question for you..If someone was breaking your fingers and toes, one by one, what would you tell them to get them to stop?

probably anything

There are better ways

Besides, if we want the rest of the world to see us as good and noble, torture isnt an effective vehicle for this

[anka]

in all fairness FairOpinion.
I saw the pictures and it's NOT torture that is being shown (e.g. bamboo shoots under finger nails, etc...)

there are a quite a few pictures of naked iraqis, piled up on each other, bent over each other, on their knees in front of their comrades etc...

and all throughout, you see OUR troops with sh*t eating grins on their faces...

now, here i sit, comfortably in my chair.
no bullets whizzing past my head or IED's tearing my buddies apart.
so, can I judge (or can any of us here) the actions of these 'soldiers'?

yes.
we can and we should.
these 'soldiers' have disgraced themselves
they have disgraced their fellow soldiers who deal with the same dangers and stress in a more civilized fashion.
they have disgraced our country and our armed forces and all those who served before them honorably.

we can certainly empathize with the daily struggles that they must endure.
BUT, we can NOT excuse their behavior.

best regards.