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Pat Tillman: Dumb jock, baby killer?
Townhall.com ^ | April 28, 2004 | Ben Shapiro (archive)

Posted on 04/28/2004 8:21:18 AM PDT by .cnI redruM

Edited on 04/28/2004 8:30:44 AM PDT by Sidebar Moderator. [history]

What would you call Pat Tillman, the former Arizona Cardinal football player killed in Afghanistan? A hero? An inspiring example of American military men and women? A model of principled strength?

How about a "dumb jock"? A "baby killer"? A "dumb-a--"? A victim of "brainwashing"?

If you were a regular reader of Indymedia.org, odds are that you'd put him in the latter group. You'd think that Pat Tillman was a boob, a complete dimwit at best -- you might even believe that Pat Tillman was an evil person and deserved what he got.

Indymedia.org has 50 local chapters in the United States. Forty-four of them made no mention of Pat Tillman's death. The other six celebrated it.

The Portland, Ore., chapter of Indymedia.org posted the news of Tillman's death accompanied by this headline: "Dumb Jock Killed in Afghanistan." Some who posted comments suggested alternate titles for the piece, like "Privileged Millionaire, Blinded by Nationalist Mythology, Pisses Away the Good Life," "Cottled Sports Star Allows Nationalism to Foster Jingoistic Irresponsibility Resulting in His Death," and "Capitalist Chooses to Kill Innocents Instead of Cashing Check."

Others made comments on the site comparing Tillman to a Nazi and accusing him of responsibility for "the deaths of hundreds, maybe thousands of Afghan civilians." "Karma sure is a b----, isn't it, Tillman?" one sneered.

The Urbana-Champaign, Ill., chapter of Indymedia.org posted two articles about Tillman. One carried the headline "Pat Tillman is gone good riddance." The other labeled all soldiers "dumb-a--(es)."

The North Carolina Indymedia chapter also posted a piece labeling soldiers like Tillman "dumb-a--(es)" and added that Tillman was killed during a "baby-killing raid." San Francisco Indymedia posted the same piece. St. Louis Indymedia stated that Tillman was "brainwashed by the 'patriotism.'"

One commenter on the Washington, D.C., Indymedia site wrote this: "I saw the Post this morning, on the front page. It was sickening. They built this guy up like he was Audie Murphy or something, publishing this foto of him in his Ranger getup, all tough-looking and stony-jawed, like a goddamn' recruiting ad ... Puke-o-rama. Cold as it may sound, 'Dumb Jock Dies for Pipeline in Afghanistan' pretty much sums it up."

What is Indymedia? According to its Web site, "Indymedia is a collective of independent media organizations and hundreds of journalists offering grass-roots, non-corporate coverage. Indymedia is a democratic media outlet for the creation of radical, accurate and passionate tellings of truth." Indymedia is made up of leaders in the anti-globalization and anti-war movement, coordinating massive protests. They revel in wild conspiracy theories. They're rabidly anti-capitalist and generally anti-American. In short, they're a bunch of left-wing nuts.

Yet the American left has neglected to excise the Indymedia cancer from its support base. In 2002, the left-leaning Ford Foundation gave Indymedia $50,000. The Tides Foundation has donated $376,000 to Indymedia, according to Frontpagemag.com. Two of the biggest donors to the Tides Foundation? George Soros, who has given over $15 million to Democratic causes during this election cycle, and Teresa Heinz Kerry. Ralph Nader is one of Indymedia's biggest supporters; his group, Public Citizen, is listed as on Indymedia.org as an "ally."

Indymedia is no small-potatoes venture. Aside from its Web sites based in 50 major American markets, it also has Web sites located in five chapters in Africa, 13 in Canada, 39 in Europe, 15 in Latin America, eight in Asia, and nine in Oceania.

The Indymedia list of allies is impressive as well. It lists groups like Fairness and Accuracy in Reporting, Adbusters, ZNet, the Institute for Public Accuracy, and Corporate Watch.

Largely due to an unceasing hatred for President Bush, the American political left continues to support Indymedia and its ilk. During the MoveOn.org Hitler-Bush ad scandal, liberal pundits largely refused to condemn the ads. Democratic Underground, a site linked on John Kerry's official blog, constantly pushes an extreme leftism often encroaching into paranoid territory.

This latest outrage underscores the leftist community's tolerance for an ugly, radical element. The Pat Tillman insults have been floating around the Web for days; the liberal silence is deafening. Tillman died to protect freedom of speech -- that doesn't mean anyone should use it to spit on his grave.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: indymedia; moveonorg; mrskerry; pattillman; tidesfoundation
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"Karma sure is a b----" - So is Kerry's wife for donating money to Indymedia.
1 posted on 04/28/2004 8:21:18 AM PDT by .cnI redruM
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To: .cnI redruM
I'm sure that other leftist site that will go unnamed posted similar sentiments. Pat Tillman's mindset is a foreign entity to them. Their brains aren't wired to understand it.
2 posted on 04/28/2004 8:28:29 AM PDT by beaversmom (Michael Medved has the Greatest radio show on GOD's Green Earth)
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To: .cnI redruM
Democratic Underground, a site linked on John Kerry's official blog, constantly pushes an extreme leftism often encroaching into paranoid territory.

I can’t stop reading DU lately. It’s like going into an insane asylum, without the risk of being bitten.

Just yesterday, they were championing the concept that The Village Voice was part of Karl Rove’s evil right-wing media cabal, intent on destroying the good character of John Kerry and foiling the will of the American people! The Village Freaking Voice!

DUers are the stupidest and kookiest people on the face of the earth.

3 posted on 04/28/2004 8:28:36 AM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: .cnI redruM
This latest outrage underscores the leftist community's tolerance for an ugly, radical element.

I must disagree. The left is made up of a bunch of ugly radical groups. They don't tolerate it, that is who they are.

4 posted on 04/28/2004 8:28:59 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: .cnI redruM
bump
5 posted on 04/28/2004 8:30:24 AM PDT by jonno (We are NOT a democracy - though we are democratic. We ARE a constitutional republic.)
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To: dead
CNN and ABC have also been accused (by them) of being part of that cabal.
6 posted on 04/28/2004 8:31:40 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: .cnI redruM
Groups like indymedia and DU need to be promoted far and wide so that the electorate will know what Kerry's base stands for.
7 posted on 04/28/2004 8:32:37 AM PDT by CzarNicky (The problem with bad ideas is that they seemed like good ideas at the time.)
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To: .cnI redruM
The liberal religion teaches that EVERYONE is stupid and completely without morals or compassion except adherents of the liberal religion, the religion of atheistic statism, whatever other religion any liberal my publicly profess.
8 posted on 04/28/2004 8:33:40 AM PDT by TBP
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To: dead
The best threads at DU are when they get to screaming about the economy. A good percentage of them are unemployed (surprise) and the sky is always, always falling. They never stop to consider that if they spent less time whining on the web and more time looking for work, they could feed their illegitimate kids without that precious government check.
9 posted on 04/28/2004 8:36:15 AM PDT by Callahan
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To: Mr. Mojo
Don't forget that organ of conservative propaganda, the NY Times. Visiting that site is like entering bizarro world.
10 posted on 04/28/2004 8:38:18 AM PDT by Callahan
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To: beaversmom
You mean Slate.com. That place is like a train wreck. I occasionally rubberneck just to see how ugly it looks.
11 posted on 04/28/2004 8:38:49 AM PDT by .cnI redruM (Air America - at least Al Jazeera can pay their bills to stay on the air.)
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To: dead
I too like going over to DU to read what the America-hating left is thinking these days. Whoo-ee. What will those crazy kids think up next? Each day is an adventure into strange new alternative universes!
12 posted on 04/28/2004 8:38:50 AM PDT by 68skylark (.)
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To: TBP
Pat Tillman graduated with honors from Arizona State University, with a 3.84 GPA. NFL teammates of his said he was an avid reader on their plane trips, fascinated with history. I'm not surprised the liberals would try to trash his intelligence, that's their modus operandi against anyone who doesn't follow their mind set.
13 posted on 04/28/2004 8:38:58 AM PDT by Azzurri
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To: .cnI redruM; Boston
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PAT TILLMAN = A HERO for the Ages

http://www.TheAlamoFILM.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3169

PAT TILLMAN = A HOLY Man

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14 posted on 04/28/2004 8:39:14 AM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE (Vet-Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.LZXRAY.com)
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To: Callahan
They never stop to consider that if they spent less time whining on the web and more time looking for work, they could feed their illegitimate kids without that precious government check.

Can't work. Alarm clocks are fascist.

15 posted on 04/28/2004 8:39:18 AM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: .cnI redruM
I have to credit the morons for following their ugly logic to it's repulsive end. If they are going to say that Iraq is a war of racist oppression, then it logically follows that Pat Tillman is a racist oppressor. Usually when faced with such an conclusion so offensive to the general public, a liberal will just abandon logic altogether. These are the people who will condemn the war, call it "genocide against brown people", and all that rot, and still praise Pat Tillman for his bravery and dedication to his country. You have to respect it when they don't try to have it both ways.

Of course, they are a bunch of idiot losers, but we already knew that.
16 posted on 04/28/2004 8:39:40 AM PDT by bondjamesbond (Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown)
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To: Howlin; nutmeg; StarFan; Mo1; kcvl; MasonGal; NYCVirago; NYC GOP Chick; JulieRNR21; ...
PING
17 posted on 04/28/2004 8:41:07 AM PDT by GottaLuvAkitas1 (What a Tangled Web We Weave . .when first we practice to deceive!)
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To: .cnI redruM
Here's a post of one of the little Marxist bastards:
what a loser 28.Apr.2004 08:21
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hehe

someone who can't even manage to stay alive in afghanistan, equipped with the best weapons technology on the planet, is a complete and utter failure in my eyes

This is the type of person that Kerry is counting on for support...
18 posted on 04/28/2004 8:42:29 AM PDT by Darryl Newhart
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To: dead
I welcome the Village Freaking Voice to the VRWC.
19 posted on 04/28/2004 8:44:17 AM PDT by .cnI redruM (Air America - at least Al Jazeera can pay their bills to stay on the air.)
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To: .cnI redruM
Oh yeah, that one too. I was thinking of the DUmmy site.
20 posted on 04/28/2004 8:45:05 AM PDT by beaversmom (Michael Medved has the Greatest radio show on GOD's Green Earth)
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