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TED KOPPEL TO READ LIST OF IRAQ WAR DEAD DURING ABCNEWS SPECIAL
The Drudge Report ^ | 4/27/2004 | Drudge

Posted on 04/27/2004 3:30:51 PM PDT by faithincowboys

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To: Scott from the Left Coast
well put. we are indeed hanging on by a thread in this country.
161 posted on 04/30/2004 9:54:40 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: faithincowboys
it is important to recognize that Koppel and his friends in the big media hope this war becomes very unpopular.

That is their intent. They will propogandize as much as possible until they achieve their goal of electing a Democrat President. The broadcast should have been prefaced with "I am John Kerry and I approved this ad" in order to bring in into compliance with the new campaign finance law.

162 posted on 04/30/2004 9:54:41 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: My Dog Likes Me
you are delusional. no offense intended. but you seem totally unaware of the real motives behind these people.
163 posted on 04/30/2004 9:56:51 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: My Dog Likes Me
he was with the third ID all right, reporting that the supply lines were bogged down while other embeds from Fox were telling a totally differernt story.
164 posted on 04/30/2004 9:58:10 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: My Dog Likes Me
I agree with you.
165 posted on 04/30/2004 9:59:30 PM PDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs (I am trying to stop an outbreak here and you're driving the monkey to the airport.)
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To: My Dog Likes Me; All
Oh, I disagree profoundly. Those little CYA comments were only said because of the firestorm-- even lefty outlets thought the timing (During sweeps, 29th anniversarry of the fall of Saigon, same day as Kerry's Iraq speech and the day before the Anniverssarry of Bush's carrier landing),the exclusion of the Afghanistan dead and the inspiration -- a antiwar Life magazine issue during the Vietnam War-- all stunk to high heaven.

Koppel is a pro and he understands that what came before those throwaway comments at the end is all that matters. Koppel also knows that a draft is totally implausible and the War couldn't be sustained if one were instituted.

I think this was done badly. His being embedded w/ the 3rd ID hasn't changed any of his thinking. I remember his dispatches from Iraq being relentlessly pessimistic anyway.

Koppel is not a friend to the American military. His goals for this year are to get us resigned to failure in Iraq and to get John Kerry elected-- it's really simple!!!
166 posted on 04/30/2004 9:59:38 PM PDT by faithincowboys
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To: oceanview
The embeds from FOX?? Like Geraldo Rivera, who was drawing a map in the sand to show his unit's exact position on live television?? Hail FOX! (sarcasm)

Koppel didn't do that when he was with the Third ID. And the supply lines where, in fact, way back due to the unexpectedly rapid advance of the division into Baghdad. Logistics seemed to be playing catch-up the whole time due to the tempo of operations.
167 posted on 04/30/2004 10:08:11 PM PDT by My Dog Likes Me
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To: FreedomCalls; All
You nailed it. It is sad and tragic that they have not an itoa of patriotism. They don't think of themselves as Americans--when will we figure this out!!

Jennings is a Canadian (reared by America hating parents) and Koppel is an Englishman (reared by America hating parents) and Rather is a Socialist dupe hiding behind a phony Texas image and Brokaw stopped being from South Dakota a long time ago. They are all Bernie Sander-- they occassionally do books to fool us that they care a damn about this country. In reality, they are haters and elitists. They don't care if we lose in Iraq-- imagine being like that, I can't!! That's who they are. They are either indifferent to our aims in Iraq or hostile to them. Knowing that is knowing a lot.
168 posted on 04/30/2004 10:08:30 PM PDT by faithincowboys
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To: My Dog Likes Me
Other than Geraldo, most from Fox were great. Even Geraldo obviously revered the troops. I didn't see that on ABC, CNN, MSNBC, NBC OR CBS.

Stop the self deception--the Bid Media (Koppel especially) wants us to get humiliated in Iraq.
169 posted on 04/30/2004 10:10:21 PM PDT by faithincowboys
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To: My Dog Likes Me
how about Greg Kelley and Oliver North? And Geraldo is VERY pro-US military, leaps and bounds ahead of Koppel.

Yes, Koppel did do that. His reports, as others have pointed out, were negative during the initial invasion phase.
170 posted on 04/30/2004 10:13:58 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: oceanview
I've watched Koppel for years and I've never had any reason to question his integrity or motives. His biggest impact, although incidental, was bringing down the Carter Administration during the hostage crisis. On "America Held Hostage," Day 1 to Day 444, he hosted a nightly program that became Nightline.


171 posted on 04/30/2004 10:23:52 PM PDT by My Dog Likes Me
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To: FreedomCalls; faithincowboys
"Do you know either of these soldiers?"

A helpful reference tool: "Faces of Valor" maintained by Militarycity.com has a summary
on those who "gave all" in Operation Enduring Freedom and Operation Iraqi Freedom at
http://www.militarycity.com/valor/honor2.html
http://www.militarycity.com/valor/enduring2.html
respectively (just click on the service-person's name to get the extended summary)

I couldn't find anything for "Jose Rodriguez"; could be a recent loss and not yet listed.
For the rest:

Nicholas Kleiboeker
http://www.militarycity.com/valor/1869333.html
Kyran Kennedy:
http://www.militarycity.com/valor/2383266.html
Morgan Kennon:
http://www.militarycity.com/valor/2383790.html

Someone linked these lists a while back...I check them to make sure none of the
couple of folks I know in the theaters of operation have had the worst day possible.

172 posted on 04/30/2004 10:28:31 PM PDT by VOA
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To: My Dog Likes Me
See the last paragraph of another thread, Koppel:Afghanistan War Dead Not Included. Seems he had a little more to say on the liberal radio network today.
173 posted on 04/30/2004 10:29:11 PM PDT by Bubbette
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To: VOA
wow, thanks. We owe them so much. They are statistics or numbers or political footballs. They are Americans-- with lives, aspirations and people who love them-- who gave all and died too soon. We must honor them!!
174 posted on 04/30/2004 10:30:55 PM PDT by faithincowboys
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To: My Dog Likes Me
Do you work for him? Do you get him coffee or something? Ted K isn't your friend, get to know that!!
175 posted on 04/30/2004 10:32:03 PM PDT by faithincowboys
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To: faithincowboys
How about getting some anti-homosexual Christian TV evangelist to read the names of gays who die of AIDS. We can even show their pictures, and maybe interview a few crying relatives.

Would the media see this as creepy? Tacky? Sick? Would they see it the way we see Nightline?

176 posted on 04/30/2004 10:32:24 PM PDT by GOPJ (NFL Owners: Grown men don't watch hollywood peep shows with wives and children.)
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To: GOPJ
What about a televised abortion???

What about the graphic footage of what happened when the people who jumped from the Twin Towers landed on the ground below?

What about the people who are killed in violent crime -- robbed, murdered raped. It would be hard to be as pro criminal, anti victim as they are if we showed that.

177 posted on 04/30/2004 10:36:09 PM PDT by faithincowboys
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To: faithincowboys
. . and they want more heroes to die in vain. Shame on them.

Uhhhhhh, who's "they?"

Those who want to see the war ended or those who want it to continue to consume lives?

178 posted on 04/30/2004 10:41:16 PM PDT by logician2u
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To: faithincowboys
Good one:

What about the people who are killed in violent crime -- robbed, murdered raped. It would be hard to be as pro criminal, anti victim as they are if we showed that.

179 posted on 04/30/2004 10:43:21 PM PDT by GOPJ (NFL Owners: Grown men don't watch hollywood peep shows with wives and children.)
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To: logician2u
Apparently, you don't understand that if we leave-- many more will die in Iraq. It will also be a major defeat of the free wrold by the terrorists and fascists-- that would make us all less safe. If you don't realize that-- that's your problem. Bin Laden said he knew we were weak when we fled from Somailia-- it is more dangerous to leave. As it stands, 9-11 was a worse tragedy for this country the Iraq War by a long shot. In Iraq, we have the opportunity to have a moderate, pluralistic, progressive state in the heart of the middle east-- that is all we can hope for. The Middle East must change or we will have to use extreme measures. We are on a collision course with the forces of violence from that region, either they change or we change. Either we learn to live together in this world or terrible weapons will be used and hundreds of thousans (perhaps millions) will be killed.
180 posted on 04/30/2004 10:56:18 PM PDT by faithincowboys
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