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To: JohnGalt
On multiple posts you have created this false dichotomy based on a scenario you invented, not I, regarding debt financing of wars.

I didn't bring up "debt financing", you did. I'm happy to drop the subject.

If you really think Saddam is (was) a greater threat than say a China,

Never said that, so rest of your sentence is spurious.

Debt financing leads to upheavals and foreign intrigue/national security issues.

Ok. Not arguing.

Debt financing of the Revolution led to problems like Shay's Rebellion and the power of the central government whom Hamilton contrived with Jefferson to inherit state debt which at least so far has insured the supremacy of DC over the sovereign states which was starkly against the ideals of the founding of the country and the natural conservative instincts of the people to favor home rule.

So if I may summarize and put 2 and 2 together, you think the American Revolution - as it was waged (i.e. not in theory) - was a bad idea that should have been opposed by any 18th-century-conservative-equivalent folks, correct?

That you think conservatives apply your cute little Y/N scenario

??? I don't "think conservatives apply my little Y/N scenario", that doesn't even make sense. I was drawing a natural inference from the content of your posts. You're here to say, mostly, that the war in Iraq should be opposed by conservatives "because it's debt-financed". I applied that to a certain other war and drew the only logical conclusion. What "conservatives apply" has got nothing to do with anything.

I happen to think yours is a dumb reason to oppose this or any other war. You're welcome to your opinions of course (you can have them because I sure as heck don't want them). I'm happy just to say that your arrogant pretense to be the sole arbiter of what is conservative and what isn't, is a delusion, and leave it at that. If that delusion comforts you then by all means continue to wallow in it, be my guest. Just don't expect the rest of us to bow down before your self-appointed claim to authority.

410 posted on 04/29/2004 12:45:46 PM PDT by Dr. Frank fan
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To: Dr. Frank fan
You're here to say, mostly, that the war in Iraq should be opposed by conservatives "because it's debt-financed".

How on Earth do you draw this conclusion?

It's but one reason American conservatives do not support it. Conservative Christians can't support aggressive, elective wars and that is certainly a better reason for opposition than Earthly money. Conservative Westerners do not believe violations of UN resolutions is cause interventions in sovereign nations, in the spirit of the 1648 Treaty of Westphalia.

Your failure in logic is tying any national security consequences to your debt financing to support the nation building project in Iraq, that is all I can figure.

The welfare at home, the Amnesty for 9 million actual invaders, and the increased centralization of the national security apparatus even after its most spectacular failure are all anti-conservative developments tied with the current Wilsonian liberal war.

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Militant Book Describes Meeting Bin Laden

During an extended visit after he fled to Norway, Krekar founded Ansar al-Islam in northern Iraq in December 2001 to foment revolution against Saddam. Now the group is suspected of links to al-Qaida and in suicide bombings targeting U.S. and coalition forces in Iraq.

Hmmm, 12/2001 and Ansar al-Islam sets up shop in the US controlled No Fly Zone to organize a force to take down Saddam? Something is rotten in Denmark.

411 posted on 04/29/2004 12:58:16 PM PDT by JohnGalt (Chalabi Republicans: Soft on Treason)
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