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"A classical liberal who favors debt financed wars as you favor abstract rights? "

More gibbering from you.

President Jefferson, our nation's foremost classical liberal, sent the Marines in to dispatch the Barbary pirates. Jefferson made an act of war and went to foreign soil to dispose of a threat to American liberty. Was he right?

I say yes. Freedom isnt free. It's not 'abstract' but has a concrete reality, and sometimes requires concrete actions to defend. I'd have done the same.

So Jefferson is in the dock of engaging in 'debt-financed wars'. As did Washington, our first President. As did Republican Presidents like Lincoln, McKinley, Eisenhower, and Reagan.

"You clearly have no understanding of Western concepts of liberty if you think like the French Jacobins."

Well I dont think like Jacobins, I think like a realist American Conservative who loves freedom. Your attempts at ad hominem are weak and feeble. Dont you have *anything* in your bag o' debating tricks besides irrelevent gibberish, character attacks, and mantra-chanting?

sure you could make a nuanced argument that wartime footings create big Government and hence impinge on our small Government ideals. But you dont.

I'd think after 9/11 you'd be aware of the connection to our very real safety, security and freedom, and the external threats in the world to our ideals and beliefs.
being locked in a mindset that pretends falsely that the only threat to American freedom is from Govt war bonds is quaintly 'Pre-9/11'.

As G W Bush said: "They hate us for our freedom"

You realize that the intellectual and political supporters of Jefferson's anti-federalism considered him a sell-out and a traitor to the cause as a President? Well, lets face it, you had no idea.

The American Revolution was both a very real defense of invaders but it was also liberal in its political aims. The upheaval of the war and the methods the individual sovereign states used to finance the war varied, but it did set in place the procedures for the Republic. Floating the currency to the Chinese, was not one of the methods of finance.

"They hate us for our freedom?" "Freedom isn't free?" Shouldn't you be in school at this hour?

Open borders, a corrupt central government and a disarmed citizenry coupled with meddling in foreign nations led to 9/11. As Ronald Reagan said so clearly,"the problem is government."