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To: JohnGalt
You may well have been born in America and live a traditional lifestyle, but all I have seen from you is a general rejection of the tenants of American conservatism.

Give examples.

By the way, conservatism has no "tenants". Tenants are those people who pay rent to live somewhere. Do you know what word you meant to use there, by any chance? I wonder if your knowledge of vocabulary is as extensive as your knowledge of Trotsky.

And if you prefer Jacobin to Trotskyite, have at it.

I'd prefer you refrain from empty baseless puerile name-calling but perhaps that's too much to ask.

Nailed you again, I see. No different than a leftie, both talk only of the lofty goal of your favorite welfare program, and never the cost.

Please list any war(s) where conservatives (or anyone, really) have successfully specified casualties and cost in advance. Thanks.

Because it seems that by your criterion here (=a war is invalid and "leftie" unless casualties and cost are specified in advance) all wars are invalid. Is that really what you think the "conservative" position to be? If so, let us know, so that we may judge your version of "conservatism" accordingly.

Did the American Revolutioners specify costs and casualties in advance? Guess those Minutemen were a bunch of damn "lefties" huh?

388 posted on 04/29/2004 10:48:24 AM PDT by Dr. Frank fan
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To: Dr. Frank fan
Dyslexia ruins me for the medium ; I have trouble with words that sound the same, but are spelled differently.

American Conservatives don't support "global democratic revolutions" and I would be hard pressed to think of a conservative who championed a war from the Congress--who did you have in mind? Traditionally, American conservatives have acted to preserve this Constitutional Republic in the face of the ability of the government to dupe the mob into supporting its extra Constitutional programs. On the other hand, I can see why a phony might argue that American conservatives traditionally seek to hide from public debate their own view on the cost of such enterprises.

The rest of you post is a general surrender to acceptance that you know nothing about the school of thought you claim to come from. American Conservatives have been against debt financed wars or debt financing in general as a rule. Its hilarious that its news to you.

I asked only you to share with the group how much money and blood would be worth your 'democracy' in Iraq...are you scared to tell the group and prefer to keep it a secret?

The American Revolution was a defense against an actual invader not a pretend invader dreamed up by softporn purveyors and international scoundrels promoted by anti-patriotic men.
389 posted on 04/29/2004 11:07:41 AM PDT by JohnGalt (Chalabi Republicans: Soft on Treason)
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