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You were doing so well until this post.

American conservatives don't subscribe to the ideological world views being promoted by the Red Right on this thread.

Reagan was a New Deal liberal, but also a patriot, a love of "libertarian" rhetoric, and a skilled statesmen with talent few have been able to understand. The absurd joke in comparing Reagan's "supporting democracy" versus the leftwing impulse to bomb people in order to make them 'free' (no guns or 'free trade', but plenty of porn and abortion) is just another mark on why nobody on the Right takes the Hawks seriously.

I alredy called you a Trotskyite or an unwilling dupe to a Trotskite world view, no need to do it again.

I mention the cost of the war because conservatives have always been against debt financed wars. Debt weakens national security. I am revealing y'all to be phony idealists on that issue.

Now, how many lives and how much money is democracy in Iraq worth? Specific numbers; demonstrate to the group that you have really thought this one through. (*roll eyes*)

You were doing so well until this post.

Presumably you will give me your reasons for saying this and those reasons will be backed up by fact, not pathetic conspiracy theories.

American conservatives don't subscribe to the ideological world views being promoted by the Red Right on this thread.

Explain yourself.

I'm an American conservative. I supported the war in Afghanistan, and the war in Iraq, and possibly one or more future wars (it will depend on the situation(s) ). The only "world view" being promoted in this thread is that it would be good rather than bad if there could be a democratic regime somewhere in the Middle East. I (an American conservative) subscribe to that "world view".

Don't you? What part do you disagree with?

The absurd joke in comparing Reagan's "supporting democracy" versus the leftwing impulse to bomb people in order to make them 'free' (no guns or 'free trade', but plenty of porn and abortion)

The joke is that you think this is what anyone on this thread, or anywhere on FR, supports.

Anyway, I take you to be defending Reagan, i.e. that he doesn't get sent to your "neo-con" doghouse. Well, that's something, I guess.

I alredy called you a Trotskyite or an unwilling dupe to a Trotskite world view, no need to do it again.

No, that's true. It was an idiotic enough thing to say the first time, why embarrass yourself further.

Do you even know who Trotsky was, or is he just known to you as The Guy Neocons Are Basing Their Ideas On (from what you read in some idiotic magazine article)? If so, can't you tell me explicitly what "Trotskyite" idea I believe, wittingly or unwittingly? And don't say "global democratic revolution".

Trotsky was NOT a "democrat"!

I mention the cost of the war because conservatives have always been against debt financed wars. Debt weakens national security. I am revealing y'all to be phony idealists on that issue.

What "issue"? Nobody here is saying "YAY to debt-financed wars!" in case you hadn't noticed. All other things being equal I'd rather balance the budget while we fight this war than not balance the budget while we fight the war. Ok?

Now, how many lives and how much money is democracy in Iraq worth?

Unanswerable, in any war

Specific numbers; demonstrate to the group that you have really thought this one through.

Asking for "specific numbers" in the middle of a war is so asinine that it just demonstrates to the group that you haven't.