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No more appeasement: Joseph Farah tells how Thomas Jefferson ended Islamic terrorism
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | Tuesday, April 27, 2004 | Joseph Farah

Posted on 04/26/2004 11:25:44 PM PDT by JohnHuang2

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21 posted on 04/27/2004 4:54:37 AM PDT by RippleFire ("It was just a scratch")
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This talk of Hawkish Jefferson is wrong. In "John Adams", that recent bestseller, Jefferson opposed the creation of an American navy. Why? Adams was using it as a club to force Jefferson's beloved French from doing the same thing as the Barbary Pirates (see the XYZ Affair). It seems revolutionaries in silks can extort Americans, but rag heads cannot.

Since reading Adams, I have had a great deal of disenchantment with Jefferson who stands reveled as a sexual harasser, a dilettante, a poor administrator (he died in debt), a hypocrite, and soft of the French. But I suppose he had his good points.
22 posted on 04/27/2004 5:20:13 AM PDT by flydye45
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To: JohnHuang2
Bump for Jefferson the neocon.
23 posted on 04/27/2004 5:23:44 AM PDT by spunkets
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To: JohnHuang2
Bump!
24 posted on 04/27/2004 5:32:34 AM PDT by The Mayor (The more you love God, the more you hate sin.)
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To: JohnHuang2
Fascinating. Great post, as always. :)
26 posted on 04/27/2004 5:35:06 AM PDT by veronica ("Kicking butt is mandatory - taking names is optional." - US Navy)
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Bump for Jefferson the neocon...

Jefferson was Jewish? Who knew? ;)

27 posted on 04/27/2004 5:36:05 AM PDT by veronica ("Kicking butt is mandatory - taking names is optional." - US Navy)
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To: veronica
Jefferson knew the difference between foreign entanglements and national security bump.
28 posted on 04/27/2004 5:44:26 AM PDT by spunkets
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To: ought-six
Judging by the "crowds" they are drawing to PNC Park, they might not be the Pittsburgh Pirates much longer.
29 posted on 04/27/2004 5:48:26 AM PDT by macrahanish #1
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To: JohnHuang2
Jefferson inquired of his European hosts how they dealt with the problem. He was stunned to find out that France and England both paid tribute to the fiends – who would, in turn, use the money to expand their own armada, buy more weaponry, hijack more commercial ships, enslave more innocent civilians and demand greater ransom.

Nothing has changed all that much, has it?

The only thing missing from the article is the famous statement made in Congress during discussions about how to solve the problem. And it is as applicable today as ever:

"Millions for defense. Not one cent for tribute!"

30 posted on 04/27/2004 5:53:13 AM PDT by Publius6961 (.)
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Today, 200 years later, we are now re-engaged fully in the fight against the Muslim Pirates, which was only temporarily suspended by Treaty in 1805.

The Marines, today as then, are in the lead elements.

31 posted on 04/27/2004 6:21:51 AM PDT by Gritty ("There is no fundamental Islam. There is only Islam"-M.Sharon)
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To: Barset
Great post, I agree with all you said. Americans sometimes don't see the big picture, the long fight over centuries and generations. We are all too focused on our own lives and what we plan to do this year, this weekend etc.

Islam never sleeps. One quarter of the human race and growing. Coming soon to a mosque near you.

32 posted on 04/27/2004 7:25:01 AM PDT by Sender (It is not always the same thing to be a good man and a good citizen. -Aristotle)
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To: Barset
> complete destruction of non-Islamic all people.
33 posted on 04/27/2004 7:46:07 AM PDT by old-ager
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> complete destruction of non-Islamic all people.
34 posted on 04/27/2004 7:46:07 AM PDT by old-ager
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To: JohnHuang2

this was an excellent article. I caught it in the WA times the other week while out of town and hoped someone had posted it! thanks!


35 posted on 05/14/2004 7:53:17 AM PDT by Terriergal ("arise...kill...eat." Acts 10:13)
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PING!


36 posted on 05/14/2004 7:56:10 AM PDT by Terriergal ("arise...kill...eat." Acts 10:13)
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thanks for the link... long time terrier, where ya been?


37 posted on 05/14/2004 8:11:34 AM PDT by MacDorcha
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To: JohnHuang2
Very good article -- I took history but I don't recall hearing this, at least from this perspective. Thanks for the post.

Carolyn

38 posted on 05/14/2004 8:23:43 AM PDT by CDHart
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To: JohnHuang2

Actually Algerian piracy didn't end until the French Army invaded and occupied Algeria in 1830. The Brits attacked Algiers in 1816 but they just started up again. BTW, Jefferson wrecked the American Navy with such drastic budget cuts that we didn't have a single ship of the line (battleship) at the start of the War of 1812. He thought harbor gunboats would be good enough.


39 posted on 05/14/2004 8:39:38 AM PDT by Eternal_Bear
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To: JohnHuang2

Like knowing that a central bank would be the death of our republican experimant the founders seemed to have the right answers about a lot of things. Maybe we should take a lesson from them.


40 posted on 05/14/2004 8:48:54 AM PDT by patriot_wes
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