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NEW ZEALAND: Richard Prebble quits as ACT leader
NZ Press Associaition | April 27 2004 | NZPA

Posted on 04/26/2004 8:35:19 PM PDT by shaggy eel

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1 posted on 04/26/2004 8:35:20 PM PDT by shaggy eel
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To: blackie; rintense; Piquaboy; AMNZ; Brian Allen; concordKIWI; cyborg; 2sheep; spitz; Neophyte; ...
FYI
2 posted on 04/26/2004 8:40:33 PM PDT by shaggy eel
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To: shaggy eel
Cheers.
3 posted on 04/26/2004 8:50:23 PM PDT by KangarooJacqui (Things that make you go "BANG"....)
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http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,2889626a10,00.html
4 posted on 04/26/2004 8:51:00 PM PDT by shaggy eel
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,,, while the NATIONAL Party was involved in it's own disintegration, Richard Prebble and his ACT Party were effectively Helen Clark's opposition. He performed that role very well. NATIONAL has risen from the ashes and taken ACT's direction and some of their policies. Under an MMP electoral environment the ACT Party and the NATIONAL Party would be able to form a government without much trouble at all.

5 posted on 04/26/2004 8:55:22 PM PDT by shaggy eel
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To: Deb
ping to you...
6 posted on 04/26/2004 9:12:25 PM PDT by bellas_sister (" Senator, do you know there's a girl found dead in your car?")
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To: shaggy eel
I'm not all that familiar with your politics, other than knowing who you do NOT like, LOL. Was Prebble the only opposition to Helen Clark?

Hope they have some good 'up and comer' before 2005!!
7 posted on 04/26/2004 9:20:16 PM PDT by potlatch ( Medals do not make a man. Morals do.)
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They have Don Brash and the Nats in opposition to Labour too but they've been ineffective until recently. The other parties who oppose Labour are juggled against each other easily by Clarke (ie Greens used vs United, United vs the Greens to minimise the concessions she needs to grant...
8 posted on 04/26/2004 9:49:28 PM PDT by Androcles
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So, from your perspective, is it likely to be good, bad or indifferent that Prebble has quit?
9 posted on 04/26/2004 9:55:14 PM PDT by Piefloater
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Thanks for the information Androcles! My son traveled in New Zealand last year and Shaggy answered some questions I had, I believe there were some protests about the war at that time and I was worried.

I had taped an hour story on the History channel showing Helen Clark and a reporter at all the Extreme Adventure sites. Beautiful country!!
10 posted on 04/26/2004 9:58:52 PM PDT by potlatch ( Medals do not make a man. Morals do.)
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Under an MMP electoral environment the ACT Party and the NATIONAL Party would be able to form a government without much trouble at all.

From what I understand about your politics this would be good. Sorta like a merger of Libertarians and Rebublicans. Is this correct?

11 posted on 04/26/2004 10:08:59 PM PDT by null and void (I was told I needed to see a shrink because of my compulsive interest in nanotechnology...)
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".....Finance spokesman Rodney Hide has long touted himself as leadership material....

Is he the recipient of a lot of "Dr. Jekyll" jokes??

12 posted on 04/27/2004 6:05:23 AM PDT by Renfield
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To: shaggy eel
Interesting.
13 posted on 04/27/2004 10:13:23 AM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: potlatch
Was Prebble the only opposition to Helen Clark?

,,, until early this year, in effect, yes.

14 posted on 04/27/2004 1:36:42 PM PDT by shaggy eel
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So, from your perspective, is it likely to be good, bad or indifferent that Prebble has quit?

,,, Richard is a veteran. He knows how to play the game and he knows how Klark plays it. Nothing lasts forever and he has sensed that the time to step down is now. This far out from an election and with Labour juggling a range of disasters, he's responsibly gauged the situation and made the big exit statement. All is not lost. He will remain as an influential guiding hand who will still hit some major home runs.

Part of the dynamic beneath the surface with voters is an ongoing perception that he was Minister of Railways in the Labour government in the mid 1980s when he "hocked the family silver" - he privatised State owned assets such as TELECOM, Air New Zealand and TraNZrail, for what many thought to be firesale prices. This process wiped an amount of debt for the government of the day but outraged a good number of voters. What I liked about it was the government were saying "we have no place in running railroads and airlines etc."

With Richard Prebble's exit from the furthest right wing spotlight, it will disarm the naysayers who align his name to the baggage of the reform days.

Above all, I posted this article as a tribute to Prebble, a man who has carried the torch for the right wing in New Zealand with great conviction and confidence. Under his leadership people like Rodney Hide and Muriel Newman have emerged as competent, focused possibilities for his replacement.

15 posted on 04/27/2004 1:58:26 PM PDT by shaggy eel
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To: null and void
Sorta like a merger of Libertarians and Rebublicans. Is this correct?

,,, exactly. ACT is a cross between Republican and Libertarian - it's the Party I vote for. National equates to the most right wing of the US Democrats or the more moderate Republicans - that's a rough estimate and variation would occur on a number of issues.

16 posted on 04/27/2004 2:01:50 PM PDT by shaggy eel
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Is he the recipient of a lot of "Dr. Jekyll" jokes??

,,, I spoke with Rodney a couple of months ago after a speech he delivered at a bar in a north Wellington suburb. He's a sharp guy. I left a full vodka on a table and had to move around to the side of the room as the crowd grew in numbers. During his speech he took a step back and looked backwards at the vodka... "is this for me?", he asked.

Could you imagine me saying "no" to Saint Rodney?

17 posted on 04/27/2004 2:06:11 PM PDT by shaggy eel
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To: Renfield
Rodney Hide...


18 posted on 04/27/2004 2:08:52 PM PDT by shaggy eel
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ACT MPs Brace For Battle

28/04/2004 09:35 AM - Source: NewstalkZB (radio network)

ACT MP Rodney Hide is adamant he has played no part in Richard Prebble's resignation as party leader.

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The party's MPs are lining up for a hotly contested battle for the top job after an emotional Mr Prebble broke the news to reporters yesterday.

Mr Hide has always made it clear he wants the party's top job and will be one of several MPs putting their names forward but he claims Mr Prebble was not pushed into stepping down. He says ACT owes its very existence to the former leader and he hopes Mr Prebble will remain in Parliament. Another MP interested in the job is Stephen Franks, who is cutting short a North American trip following Mr Prebble's decision. Mr Franks has been at the International Parliamentary Union conference in Mexico and has also been talking with police officers, criminologists and city hall officials in the US.

Mr Franks is disappointed about Mr Prebble's decision, saying the next parliament needs his intellect, commitment and firepower.

He says Mr Prebble has always had courage in raising unpopular issues.

Deputy leader Ken Shirley has also confirmed he will stand for the position while Muriel Newman is also considered a possibility.

ACT has had a poor showing in recent polls, scoring 1.6 percent in the latest One News-Colmar Brunton survey.

The party will use an American primary system for electing its new leader. It involves canvassing all party members to see who they want to take them into the next election. The process is expected to take around a month to complete.

Meantime, National Party leader Don Brash describes Richard Prebble as having made an extremely significant contribution to politics.

Dr Brash says if his party needs a coalition partner, it will look to ACT but he will not be drawn on who he believes would be the best replacement for Mr Prebble.

19 posted on 04/27/2004 3:50:51 PM PDT by shaggy eel
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Thanks for the interesting and comprehensive reply. Appreciate it.

I don't know anything about Rodney Hide other that what I have read above but he certainly looks like he'd be a colorful replacement.

20 posted on 04/27/2004 5:34:19 PM PDT by Piefloater
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