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Senator Kerry - I Am Not An Assassin
blog@jenmartinwez.com ^ | 26 April 2004 | Larry J. O'Daniel

Posted on 04/26/2004 2:29:05 PM PDT by annyokie

Senator Kerry - I Am Not An Assassin Just in from my friend and author, Larry J. O'Daniel. This was faxed to Sen. Kerry's office five days ago with no reply thus far. The Senator did not reply to O'Daniel's earlier fax either. No surprise there.

Senator Kerry, I am not an assassin and you are no leader: (The accused asks the accuser questions)

Senator Kerry, we have never met, but many of your actions have touched and marred my life for over 30 years. It would be different if what you said had been true, but truth has not been one of your strong points.

On May 6, 2001, you asserted on Meet the Press that Phoenix was an assassination program, amplifying this way: "the government of our country, ran an assassination program. I mean, Bill Colby has acknowledged it. We had the Phoenix Program, where they actually went into villages to eliminate the civilian infrastructure of the Vietcong. Now, you couldn't tell the difference in many cases who they were. And countless veterans testified 30 years ago to that reality. And I think--look, there's no excusing shooting children in cold blood, or women, and killing them in cold blood." Your VVAW, with you apparently present, even named an alleged assassination plot against sitting Senators and Representatives the Phoenix Project.

Enough is Enough! It is time to set you and the record straight. You are fabricating the truth! I am a veteran of that program as were about 2000 other men. Phoenix stands as the forerunner to our present day efforts in Iraq and Afghanistan which lead to the capture of Saddam Hussein and the hunt for Bin Laden. To persist in your lies about my program is dishonoring those who serve today. Phoenix was further designed to cure ills in the intelligence gathering programs in Vietnam. It was right then and it's successor efforts are correct today.

In that May interview, you charged that we did not know who were VC or friendly when we entered a village. Senator, did you ever hear of a black list? We used the local Popular Forces or Regional Forces, or Kit Carson Scouts, who lived in the village to help search and identify Viet Cong. We were after specific people. That is how we were trained. You further charged on that show: "the men who designed the free fire zone, the men who ordered us, the men who signed off the air raid strike areas, I think these men, by the letter of the law, the same letter of the law that tried Lieutenant Calley, are war criminals."

I not only enforced free fire zones in both Provinces I served in, but I actively participated in the designing of them and the rules concerning their access. Before any targets were engaged by the pilots with whom I flew, they had to have my permission as I represented the Vietnamese government in their eyes. That meant I decided IF the targets were military, even if it was free fire. This job I did not take lightly. Even though I was only a 2 LT or 1 LT, I was legally the counterpart to the District Chief in this capacity. If I was wrong, the CID came looking for me and I was not politically connected nor well off financially. I utilized the best intelligence possible, plus split second analyzation of the scene on the ground versus what my intelligence told me to expect. On several occasions, I gave the order to fire. Sometimes, the other side cooperated and fired first, making my job a lot easier. On each occasion, the intelligence returned saying they were VC soldiers.

In your public statements about Vietnam, you cooked your intelligence books. You utilized phonies, wannabes, and people with active imaginations to bring out this specific charge against Phoenix. In the Winter Soldier Investigation you used as a basis for your 1971 statement, Phoenix was not mentioned that I could find. However, The Winter Soldier Investigation (WSI) grew out of the previous Citizens Commission of Inquiry of US War Crimes (CCI), organized as an offshoot of the Bertrand Russell Peace Foundation. Further, CCI staff organized the early chapters of Vietnam Veterans Against War (VVAW) in 1970-71. Thus, you have your own self - feeding set of information.

The WSI said, during that period, men who had taken part in the CIA's Phoenix Program--including former U.S. Army intelligence agents Michael Uhl, Edward Murphy, and Robert Stemme--disclosed its record of terror, torture, and assassination. The need to demonstrate a broader pattern became clear.

Michael Uhl was not Phoenix. He lists himself as leading a military intelligence team with the 11th Infantry Bde in 1968-69. Once he is listed as a military intelligence operative. One posting listed him in Vietnam (11/68 - 5/69) working with Counter Intelligence receving information about suspected members of the VCI through Phoenix sources. Further, Uhl is listed as a contributor to CCI's successor, Citizen Soldier, along with Tod Ensign, who later organized the International War Crimes Conference, in Oslo, Norway. None was Phoenix. Edward Murphy and Robert Stemme, have apparently disappeared as the Winter Soldier listing is about all I can find on either one.

Another star witness against Phoenix was K. Barton Osborn. He testified before Congress in August, 1971. Previously, he testified in Oslo, Norway, as a representative of the Vietnam Veterans Against the War. However, he was not Phoenix either. He was with the 525th MI group from September 1967 to December, 1968, apparently as an enlisted man. Except for possibly exchanging information, there were no ties.

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1 posted on 04/26/2004 2:29:06 PM PDT by annyokie
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To: kellynla; ALOHA RONNIE
Give Jen some hits and read the rest.
2 posted on 04/26/2004 2:29:44 PM PDT by annyokie (There are two sides to every argument, but I'm too busy to listen to yours.)
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To: annyokie
http://www.jenmartinez.com/mt/archives/2004_04.php#000835
3 posted on 04/26/2004 2:31:54 PM PDT by annyokie (There are two sides to every argument, but I'm too busy to listen to yours.)
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To: annyokie
When I find this sort of thing, I pass it on to my Vietnam Vetran friends. There's quite a few vets in my area that believe Kerry is worse than scum, I help them out where I can.
4 posted on 04/26/2004 2:38:38 PM PDT by Iron Matron (Troublemakers deserve the righteous ZOT!)
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To: Iron Matron
Thanks for passing it on. Jen's dad was a VN vet and her fiance is in Iraq. She has lots of good stuff.
5 posted on 04/26/2004 2:42:00 PM PDT by annyokie (There are two sides to every argument, but I'm too busy to listen to yours.)
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To: annyokie
I thought this article would be about whether "Kerry knew" about the VVAW discussions of assassinating US Senators. (But only the five or six most hawkish.)
6 posted on 04/26/2004 2:43:38 PM PDT by VadeRetro (Faster than a speeding building! Able to leap tall bullets in a single bound!)
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To: annyokie
Jen's dad was a VN vet and her fiance is in Iraq. She has lots of good stuff.


They have my prayers as well.
7 posted on 04/26/2004 2:43:48 PM PDT by Iron Matron (Troublemakers deserve the righteous ZOT!)
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To: annyokie
VERY good read.
8 posted on 04/26/2004 2:51:12 PM PDT by Riley
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To: Riley
Thanks! Share with your friends!
9 posted on 04/26/2004 2:51:53 PM PDT by annyokie (There are two sides to every argument, but I'm too busy to listen to yours.)
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To: annyokie
bttt
10 posted on 04/26/2004 2:52:43 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: annyokie
BUMP
11 posted on 04/26/2004 2:55:00 PM PDT by kitkat
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To: annyokie
Bump for later
12 posted on 04/26/2004 2:57:19 PM PDT by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1/5 1st Mar Div. Nam 69&70 Semper Fi http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnkerry.com)
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To: annyokie
Thanks for posting this...it reinforced my memories of Free Fire zones...after listening to Kerry, I wasn't sure.

I was on Swift Boats in the An Thoi area and was probably involved with the same zones that Ketchup Boy keeps rambling on about. I was in this op area a couple of years before Kerry graced the place with his presence.

As I recall, we could only fire if fired upon first. There was no standing permission to fire at anything moving without first requesting and receiving permission from Saigon.

Cheers, PCF's 10, 45, and 51.
13 posted on 04/26/2004 3:05:50 PM PDT by Cuttnhorse
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To: annyokie
The extent of the damage that Kerry and his comrades did to the good name of good men can not be overstated. Almost without exception, the films of the 70's, 80's and 90's painted the worst kind of picture of the veterans of the war in Vietnam. Think, can you name a picture where the Vietnam veteran was shown in a good light? And if you can, how many films are on the other side showing our men to psychotic, baby-killing rapists not fit to live in normal society. Or they are drug-addled psychotics.

It is only recently that we've come to see any other kind of characterization of our best men and women.

Kerry and the rest of the Left can never make amends for what they've done.

14 posted on 04/26/2004 3:09:53 PM PDT by thegreatbeast (Quid lucrum istic mihi est?)
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To: annyokie
But did he stay in a Holiday Inn?
15 posted on 04/26/2004 3:11:15 PM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: annyokie
He is... what am I supposed to say today?... falsifying the truth.


16 posted on 04/26/2004 3:11:31 PM PDT by Lady Jag (I dreamed I surfed all day in my monthly donor wonder bra (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate))
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To: thegreatbeast; Cuttnhorse
My husband has been having a fit about Kerry's grandstanding. It cheapens the service of all of you when a wannabe like John F'n talks like he does.

Bless you all for your service to our great country.
17 posted on 04/26/2004 3:12:44 PM PDT by annyokie (There are two sides to every argument, but I'm too busy to listen to yours.)
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To: annyokie
Thanks for posting this. I sent it on to some others.
18 posted on 04/26/2004 3:20:20 PM PDT by AZamericonnie (Pat Tillman....American hero. Rest in Peace.)
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To: Iron Matron
Bump to #4!

1/1 CAV Americal I Corps RVN 68-69.

19 posted on 04/26/2004 3:25:24 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: annyokie
What everyone fails to realize is that John Kerry has a completely disjointed and random thought process similar to that of Christopher Walken!
20 posted on 04/26/2004 3:37:20 PM PDT by 100%FEDUP
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