[2banana]

I appreciate you pointing out the obvious. I do not believe that I implied that it was. I wrote about civilizations. Rome was not Christian. This did not stop the two of them from fighting it out for centuries.

You lose me. Roman fought and invade areas all across Europe, the Middle East and Africa. Sometime they invade these areas numerous times (Gaul) and fought for centuries. I don't think it was a middle east/europe thing.

[Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit]

It was Rome vs. Carthage! Don't you know anything about history?