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Militants in Europe Openly Call for Jihad and the Rule of Islam
The New York Times ^ | April 26, 2004 | PATRICK E. TYLER and DON VAN NATTA Jr

Posted on 04/26/2004 7:53:48 AM PDT by Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit

LUTON, England, April 24 — The call to jihad is rising in the streets of Europe, and is being answered, counterterrorism officials say.

In this former industrial town north of London, a small group of young Britons whose parents emigrated from Pakistan after World War II have turned against their families' new home. They say they would like to see Prime Minister Tony Blair dead or deposed and an Islamic flag hanging outside No. 10 Downing Street.

They swear allegiance to Osama bin Laden and his goal of toppling Western democracies to establish an Islamic superstate under Shariah law, like Afghanistan under the Taliban. They call the Sept. 11 hijackers the "Magnificent 19" and regard the Madrid train bombings as a clever way to drive a wedge into Europe.

On Thursday evening, at a tennis center community hall in Slough, west of London, their leader, Sheik Omar Bakri Mohammad, spoke of his adherence to Osama bin Laden. If Europe fails to heed Mr. bin Laden's offer of a truce — provided that all foreign troops are withdrawn from Iraq in three months — Muslims will no longer be restrained from attacking the Western countries that play host to them, the sheik said.

"All Muslims of the West will be obliged," he said, to "become his sword" in a new battle. Europeans take heed, he added, saying, "It is foolish to fight people who want death — that is what they are looking for."

On working-class streets of old industrial towns like Crawley, Luton, Birmingham and Manchester, and in the Arab enclaves of Germany, France, Switzerland and other parts of Europe, intelligence officials say a fervor for militancy is intensifying and becoming more open.

In Hamburg, Dr. Mustafa Yoldas, the director of the Council of Islamic Communities, saw a correlation to the discord in Iraq. "This is a very dangerous situation at the moment," Dr. Yoldas said. "My impression is that Muslims have become more and more angry against the United States."

Hundreds of young Muslim men are answering the call of militant groups affiliated or aligned with Al Qaeda, intelligence and counterterrorism officials in the region say.

Even more worrying, said a senior counterterrorism official, is that the level of "chatter" — communications among people suspected of terrorism and their supporters — has markedly increased since Mr. bin Laden's warning to Europe this month. The spike in chatter has given rise to acute worries that planning for another strike in Europe is advanced.

"Iraq dramatically strengthened their recruitment efforts," one counterterrorism official said. He added that some mosques now display photos of American soldiers fighting in Iraq alongside bloody scenes of bombed out Iraqi neighborhoods. Detecting actual recruitments is almost impossible, he said, because it is typically done face to face.

And recruitment is paired with a compelling new strategy to bring the fight to Europe.

Members of Al Qaeda have "proven themselves to be extremely opportunistic, and they have decided to try to split the Western alliance," the official continued. "They are focusing their energies on attacking the big countries" — the United States, Britain and Spain — so as to "scare" the smaller states.

Some Muslim recruits are going to Iraq, counterterrorism officials in Europe say, but more are remaining home, possibly joining cells that could help with terror logistics or begin operations like the one that came to notice when the British police seized 1,200 pounds of ammonium nitrate, a key bomb ingredient, in late March, and arrested nine Pakistani-Britons, five of whom have been charged with trying to build a terrorist bomb.

Stoking that anger are some of the same fiery Islamic clerics who preached violence and martyrdom before the Sept. 11 attacks.

On Friday, Abu Hamza, the cleric accused of tutoring Richard Reid before he tried to blow up a Paris-to-Miami jetliner with explosives hidden in his shoe, urged a crowd of 200 outside his former Finsbury Park mosque to embrace death and the "culture of martyrdom."

Though the British home secretary, David Blunkett, has sought to strip Abu Hamza of his British citizenship and deport him, the legal battle has dragged on for years while Abu Hamza keeps calling down the wrath of God.

Also this week, over Mr. Blunkett's vigorous objection, a 35-year-old Algerian held under emergency laws passed after Sept. 11 was released from Belmarsh Prison. The man, identified only as "G," suffered from severe mental illness, his lawyers told a special immigration appeals panel, which let him out of prison and put him under house arrest.

Mr. Blunkett insisted that that should not be the final judgment on a man already found by one court "to be a threat to life and liberty."

In an interview on the BBC over the weekend, Mr. Blunkett advocated a stronger deportation policy, initially focused on 12 foreign terror suspects held without charge since the Sept. 11 attacks.

Despite tougher antiterrorism laws, the police, prosecutors and intelligence chiefs across Europe say they are struggling to contain the openly seditious speech of Islamic extremists, some of whom, they say, have been inciting young men to suicidal violence since the 1990's.

One chapter in Sheik Omar's lectures these days is "The Psyche of Muslims for Suicide Bombing."

The authorities say that laws to protect religious expression and civil liberties have the result of limiting what they can do to stop hateful speech. In the case of foreigners, they say they are often left to seek deportation, a lengthy and uncertain process subject to legal appeals, when the suspect can keep inciting attacks.

That leaves the authorities to resort to less effective means, such as mouse-trapping Islamic radicals with immigration violations in hopes of making a deportation case stick. "In many countries, the laws are liberal and it's not easy," an official said.

At a mosque in Geneva, an imam recently exhorted his followers to "impose the will of Islam on the godless society of the West."

"It was quite virulent," said a senior official with knowledge of the sermon. "The imam was encouraging his followers to take over the godless society."

While such a sermon may be incitement, recruitment takes a more shadowy course, and is hard to detect, a senior antiterrorism official said. "Believers are appealed to in the mosques, but the real conversations take place in restaurants or cafes or private apartments," the official said.

While some clerics, like Abu Qatada — said to be the spiritual counselor of Mohamed Atta, who led the Sept. 11 hijacking team — remain in prison in Britain without charge, others like Sheik Omar, leader of a movement called Al Muhajiroun, carry on a robust ideological campaign.

"There is no case against me," Sheik Omar said in an interview. Referring to calls by members of Parliament that he be deported, he added, "but they are Jewish" and "they have been calling for that for years."

Among his ardent followers is Ishtiaq Alamgir, 24, who heads Al Muhajiroun in Luton and calls himself Sayful Islam, the sword of Islam. He says there are about 50 members here but exact numbers are secret.

Most days, he and a handful of his followers run a recruitment stand on Dunstable Road much to the chagrin of the Muslim elders of Luton.

Mainstream Muslims are outraged by the situation, saying the actions of a few are causing their communities to be singled out for surveillance and making the larger population distrustful of them.

Muhammad Sulaiman, a stalwart of the mainstream Central Mosque here, was penniless when he arrived from the Kashmiri frontier of Pakistan in 1956. He raised money to build the Central Mosque here and now leads a campaign to ban Al Muhajiroun radicals from the city's 10 mosques.

"This is show-off business," he says in accented English. "I don't want these kids in my mosque."

Other community leaders look to the government to do something, if only to help prevent the demonization of British Muslims, or "Islamophobia," as some here call it.

"I think these kids are being brainwashed by a few radical clerics," said Akhbar Dad Khan, another elder of the Central Mosque. He wants them prosecuted or deported. "We should be able to control this negativity," he said.

In Slough, Sheik Omar spent much of his time Thursday night regaling his young followers with the erotic delights of paradise — sweet kisses and the pleasures of bathing with scores of women — while he also preached the virtues of death in Islamic struggle as a ticket to paradise.

He spoke of terrorism as the new norm of cultural conflict, "the fashion of the 21st century," practiced as much by Tony Blair as by Al Qaeda.

"We may be caught up in the target as the people of Manhattan were," he told them.

And he warned Western leaders, "You may kill bin Laden, but the phenomenon, you cannot kill it — you cannot destroy it."

"Our Muslim brothers from abroad will come one day and conquer here and then we will live under Islam in dignity," he said.

Patrick E. Tyler reported from Luton, Slough and London and Don Van Natta Jr. from London. Souad Mekhennet contributed reporting from Germany.


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: civilizations; islam; jihadineurope; militants; muslims; war
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To: Barlowmaker
You dignity is called having your head in the sand by some.
81 posted on 04/26/2004 9:33:28 AM PDT by tertiary01 (Cultures that embrace death are being invaded by the "religion of peace" death religion. How ironic!)
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To: navyblue
Hey, I wasn't writing about your posts. I was writing about the one that was removed.
82 posted on 04/26/2004 9:33:28 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian
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To: Former Proud Canadian
Yep, I know. A little fast with the typing. My bad my brother.
83 posted on 04/26/2004 9:37:58 AM PDT by navyblue
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To: cyborg
Heah...., this thread is an example of different responses to the difficult predicament we find ourselves in. Aznatives's response is comparatively the most extreme, but I'm only pointing out that if we continue on our present course of PC it will become more popular. Now that it has been deleted, this thread makes no sense.
84 posted on 04/26/2004 9:44:42 AM PDT by tertiary01 (Cultures that embrace death are being invaded by the "religion of peace" death religion. How ironic!)
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To: tertiary01
Militant muslims don't mind killing women and children (esp. children). That is what separates us from them. Besides threads like these can easily get out of control with knee jerk responses and little rational thought. This thread made sense before, and if it doesn't make sense it's becauase NO ONE wants it to make sense. People just want to act like little boys and be able to say whatever floats to the top of their minds.
85 posted on 04/26/2004 9:49:43 AM PDT by cyborg
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To: tertiary01
btw, I do agree that the more government ignores these problems the more people will take matters into their own hands.
86 posted on 04/26/2004 9:50:27 AM PDT by cyborg
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To: cyborg
The decision was made by the U.S., as recently as fifty years ago, to kill men, women and children to put an end to irrational and genocidal regimes in Germany and Japan. Hiroshima and Nagasaki, Berlin and Dresden come to mind as examples of the sad and morally repugnant necessity of laying waste to human lives.

Given the character and nature of Islam and the Muslim world, if the muzzies decide to launch out in a final Jihad on the West --- is it a knee jerk response, irrational and the dreams of little boys to consider that large scale total war may be necessary before its all said and done?

Either that silent and invisible mass of 'moderate' Muslims will rise up and put an end to their own militants, the Osamas who are itching for apocalyptic confrontation with the West and an end to our way of life, values, civilization and culture; or the West will be forced into a situation of cultural survival to do that dirty business itself.
87 posted on 04/26/2004 10:02:47 AM PDT by PresbyRev (Christ is Lord and King over all creation)
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To: navyblue
Let's not forget that we are allowing them to emigrate to our country and that the Mustlim birth rate is 7. We may be okay for the present, but twenty five years from now...

May be a different story then. Same goes for Europe.

That's a huge concern. They will multiply in the US and we will end up in the same boat with Europe. It's obvious that our government does not care; in that, they continue to allow Muslim's to immigrate to America.

88 posted on 04/26/2004 10:03:32 AM PDT by NRA2BFree
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To: cyborg
I don't think muslims will be silenced now no matter what. Mainly because once people have embraced fundamental Islam, there is no turning back. If they hesitate or object to total Islamic domination, they will be accused of being apostates or blasphemers and they must be killed and their property divided up among the other muslims. It's like going into the mob...you don't leave, you don't question. The 'moderate' and 'peaceful' muslims are either in denial of the nature of their faith or they are lying to our faces.
89 posted on 04/26/2004 10:03:55 AM PDT by Sender (It is not always the same thing to be a good man and a good citizen. -Aristotle)
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To: Shryke
Coming soon to a theater or drive-in near you. Folks, this is what we'll be dealing with here in America within 3 - 5 years, if not sooner. We, the American citizens, better gird up for it, because we will be on the front lines, just as the average Israeli citizen is on the front lines.
90 posted on 04/26/2004 10:06:48 AM PDT by ought-six
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To: Barlowmaker
Did you hear about the ice cream vendor in Lahore, Pakistan who made 2 Christians buy the bowls they were eating from because now they were 'defiled' by the dirty unbelievers and could never be used for muslims again? I have very little sympathy for these 'people'.
91 posted on 04/26/2004 10:07:20 AM PDT by Sender (It is not always the same thing to be a good man and a good citizen. -Aristotle)
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To: cyborg
That's where you're wrong. Before independence, if you were from a colony your ethnicity was British. At least that is what was stamped on my mother's passport. Read how long they've been there, they were there for generations but it looks as if these kids have unravelled completely.

Ethnicity is not determined by a passport. The "ethnos" is a group of people of common descent with a common language and culture. Its a Greek word, but the same thing as nationality, coming from the latin root "natus", "to be born". If you are born an ethnic related to the people of Pakistan and India you can never, ever, ever become a Briton, just as you could never, ever, ever become an African or an Australian Aboriginal. Its as impossible as homosexual marriage.

I have as much chance of turning Chinese as anyone from the subcontinent has a chance of ever being mistaken for an actual Briton.

And no, it doesn't matter how many generations you are there. Unless they intermarry and gradually lose their "Indianness" or "Pakistaniness" over perhaps 5 generations (the old 1/32 rule) of marrying Britons, they and their children ain't Britons!

A Passport stamped "Briton" makes you a British citizen, not "British". Nothing more, and nothing less.

92 posted on 04/26/2004 10:18:21 AM PDT by Hermann the Cherusker
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To: Hermann the Cherusker
I think many people whose parents emigrated to England, would disagree with you esp. since they grew up there for decades. Who is an American then? I respectfully disagree with you.
93 posted on 04/26/2004 10:20:43 AM PDT by cyborg
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To: Barlowmaker
The "Kill them All" mentality of some on this message board is ugly beyond contempt.

You're right.

It should be, "kill their unrepentant leaders and open up their societies to allow the rest of them to either convert Christianity or leave their murderous ways, permanently".

Islam directs the killing or slavery of unbelievers if they will not convert. We should settle with defeating them without the massive killing of them, if possible.

But, defeat them, we must. The option is ultimately either our own slavery or death

94 posted on 04/26/2004 10:23:06 AM PDT by Gritty ("Killing disbelievers is a small matter to us" -The Prophet Muhammad, Tabari IX:69)
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To: ZULU
Old Europe is basically finished (by "Old Europe" I mean the old democracies and republics). "New Europe" will give the Islamists short shrift, I think, if they try their jihad there (I'm referring to Poland and the other former Soviet satellites that are now free: They are the New Europe).
95 posted on 04/26/2004 10:26:32 AM PDT by ought-six
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To: ought-six
What role do you think the socialist governments are playing in this situation? Spain does not seem to get it at all.
96 posted on 04/26/2004 10:29:44 AM PDT by cyborg
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To: navyblue
"But I'm absolutely for a little ethnic cleansing and removing all them from all western countries."

That wouldn't eliminate the problem. It might delay it awhile.

I used to defend the Muslims. You know, they aren't all like that, etc. I'm finding I was wrong about that.

It seems they all work toward overthrow of any government not run by Islamic law - some just do it violently, and some are much more subtle.

97 posted on 04/26/2004 10:31:36 AM PDT by MEGoody (Kerry - isn't that a girl's name? (Conan O'Brian))
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To: Sender
"I don't think muslims will be silenced now no matter what. Mainly because once people have embraced fundamental Islam, there is no turning back. If they hesitate or object to total Islamic domination, they will be accused of being apostates or blasphemers and they must be killed and their property divided up among the other muslims. It's like going into the mob...you don't leave, you don't question. The 'moderate' and 'peaceful' muslims are either in denial of the nature of their faith or they are lying to our faces."

Thanks for expressing this. It is so very true. It is a true death cult.
98 posted on 04/26/2004 10:34:45 AM PDT by ought-six
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To: Barlowmaker
The "Kill them All" mentality of some on this message board is ugly beyond contempt.

Are you a Muslim?? You need to understand that ALL of them are ORDERED by the Koran to kill ALL of us. Maybe the 1.2 billion Muslims didn't take part in the 9/11 attacks, but they would have if they had the chance. ALL of the people who died in the 9/11 attacks did not deserve to die and then have Muslims around the world celebrating, dancing in the streets. They cheer and dance in the streets EVERY single time a suicide bombing, or a terror attack takes place, ANYWHERE in the world.

There's only ONE thing that Muslims want to do, and that's to murder EVERYONE who is not Muslim, and that includes you, so before you condemn us you need to tell us exactly how you would stop them?? It's people like you who will cave in when Muslims in your city want to start announcing Muslim prayers over loud speakers 5 times a day. They won't be satisfied with that either. They'll keep on pushing for you to become Muslim or they will kill you. I DON'T like the way I feel, but it's coming down to either THEM OR US! What would you do to solve the problem??

99 posted on 04/26/2004 10:35:16 AM PDT by NRA2BFree
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To: cyborg
The socialist governments are appeasers, and thus allow the jihadists to wreak havoc in their countries.
100 posted on 04/26/2004 10:36:47 AM PDT by ought-six
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