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Saddam's WMD Have Been Found
Insight Magazine ^ | 26 April 2004 | Kenneth R. Timmerman

Posted on 04/26/2004 7:32:46 AM PDT by Lando Lincoln

New evidence out of Iraq suggests that the U.S. effort to track down Saddam Hussein's missing weapons of mass destruction (WMD) is having better success than is being reported. Key assertions by the intelligence community that were widely judged in the media and by critics of President George W. Bush as having been false are turning out to have been true after all. But this stunning news has received little attention from the major media, and the president's critics continue to insist that "no weapons" have been found.

In virtually every case - chemical, biological, nuclear and ballistic missiles - the United States has found the weapons and the programs that the Iraqi dictator successfully concealed for 12 years from U.N. weapons inspectors.

The Iraq Survey Group (ISG), whose intelligence analysts are managed by Charles Duelfer, a former State Department official and deputy chief of the U.N.-led arms-inspection teams, has found "hundreds of cases of activities that were prohibited" under U.N. Security Council resolutions, a senior administration official tells Insight. "There is a long list of charges made by the U.S. that have been confirmed, but none of this seems to mean anything because the weapons that were unaccounted for by the United Nations remain unaccounted for."

Both Duelfer and his predecessor, David Kay, reported to Congress that the evidence they had found on the ground in Iraq showed Saddam's regime was in "material violation" of U.N. Security Council Resolution 1441, the last of 17 resolutions that promised "serious consequences" if Iraq did not make a complete disclosure of its weapons programs and dismantle them in a verifiable manner. The United States cited Iraq's refusal to comply with these demands as one justification for going to war.

Both Duelfer and Kay found that Iraq had "a clandestine network of laboratories and safe houses with equipment that was suitable to continuing its prohibited chemical- and biological-weapons [BW] programs," the official said. "They found a prison laboratory where we suspect they tested biological weapons on human subjects." They found equipment for "uranium-enrichment centrifuges" whose only plausible use was as part of a clandestine nuclear-weapons program. In all these cases, "Iraqi scientists had been told before the war not to declare their activities to the U.N. inspectors," the official said.

But while the president's critics and the media might plausibly hide behind ambiguity and a lack of sensational-

looking finds for not reporting some discoveries, in the case of Saddam's ballistic-missile programs they have no excuse for their silence. "Where were the missiles? We found them," another senior administration official told Insight.

"Saddam Hussein's prohibited missile programs are as close to a slam dunk as you will ever find for violating United Nations resolutions," the first official said. Both senior administration officials spoke to Insight on condition that neither their name nor their agency be identified, but their accounts of what the United States has found in Iraq coincided in every major area.

When former weapons inspector Kay reported to Congress in January that the United States had found "no stockpiles" of forbidden weapons in Iraq, his conclusions made front-page news. But when he detailed what the ISG had found in testimony before the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence last October, few took notice. Among Kay's revelations, which officials tell Insight have been amplified in subsequent inspections in recent weeks:



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To: rwfromkansas; MizSterious; Lando Lincoln; All
Regarding #s 28 and 30, title is posted unaltered from the source. That's correct procedure, whether or not the title happens to be misleading.
41 posted on 04/26/2004 8:11:31 AM PDT by Sidebar Moderator
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To: Lando Lincoln
Since the RATmedia won't cover this Bush will call a news conference this summer to reveal all that has been found. Then watch the RATS squeek and squeal.
42 posted on 04/26/2004 8:12:01 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (America's Enemies foreign and domestic RATmedia agree: Bush must be destroyed.)
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To: Lando Lincoln
The Bush Administration and the "ISG" in their mania to "get it right" and deliver incontrovertible evidence of WMD (both before and after the notorious African yellow cake affair) may have done themselves the ultimate disservice. Saddam acknowledged before the '91 Gulf War that he had "the binary weapon", while one of his generals spoke of using "bug spray" against the Iranians in the Iran-Iraq War. By their very nature, binary chemical weapons are composed of two otherwise inactive, dual-use agents which are only toxic when combined. To discredit the findings of alleged "pesticides" and other associated paraphernalia, to include illegal rockets and chemical artillery and mortar rounds, as the Administration and the ISG have done, has left them in a position of having to reestablish their credibility by proving beyond all doubt that anything they found or may find really is WMD.
43 posted on 04/26/2004 8:14:23 AM PDT by pawdoggie
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bump
44 posted on 04/26/2004 8:16:43 AM PDT by Lyford
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To: ASA Vet
Syria, as was reported on FR at the time they were being moved

Thanks. I heard that as well. Does syria have mosques or holy places? It is like iraq and syria and other mid-east territories to hide things in mosques, then bawl and squall if anyone dares enter the holy realm
45 posted on 04/26/2004 8:17:44 AM PDT by Iron Matron (Civil Disobedience? It's not just for liberals anymore!)
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To: counterpunch
I suspect Bush will be doing this shortly before the Democrat Convention.

I'm hoping for after the dem convention. That way the nation will hear them drone on and on about "the fact that no WMD were found" and then GWB lowers the boom.

Coming out with snippets of what we've found so far is GWB's answer to the inevitable question, "Why didn't we know all this before NOW?!" heh heh heh!

46 posted on 04/26/2004 8:17:46 AM PDT by BigWaveBetty ("Ahnd ahftah muthna hahve olll crompushnin Johhhnn.." "Nithmish nahd caheforea jah Kreee!"~ TKennedy)
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To: republicandiva
Bump
47 posted on 04/26/2004 8:18:31 AM PDT by LouD (Fallujah Delenda Est)
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To: R. Scott; Born Conservative
Yes, the purpose of waiting until right before the DNC Convention would be to completely overshadow the Democrats' coverage by dominating the news cycle with WMD reports.

There is no reason to wait all the way until October for such news, and as we say with Howard Dean's demise after the capture of Saddam, it can take a month or two for a candidate to become completely irrelevant after such a revelation.

I think a main factor weighing on Bush in what should be naturally higher numbers in the polls is the perception that there were no WMDs. The revelation that there in fact were WMDs would not create a temporary "bump" that would need to be timed for right before the election to have an effect, but instead simply unburden the President's naturally high numbers.

October surprises are typically last minute mud, like what happened to Bush with the DUI story. And also, the public is very cynical, and rightly so, of October surprises in general.
48 posted on 04/26/2004 8:18:39 AM PDT by counterpunch (<-CLICK HERE for my CARTOONS)
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To: Lando Lincoln
I firmly believe that if the "Oil for Food" scandal is investigated to its complete conclusion, it will reveal that the UN weapons inspections were also compromised by payoffs.

That's a big if, Lando. Right now the UN is in obfuscate mode, and there doesn't seem to be any mechanism to force them to open the books. I hope I'm wrong, but right now my money is on Kofi and his thugs keeping a lid on it.

49 posted on 04/26/2004 8:20:16 AM PDT by Starve The Beast (I used to be disgusted, but now I try to be amused)
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To: counterpunch
I suspect Bush will be doing this shortly before the Democrat Convention.

I smell a trap here. I think Bush will allow the Rats to go ape over WMD at the convention - as in none were found. This is one of the lefties favorite topics to bash Bush. Kerry has stayed away from the issue, but he could waffle yet again, thinking it unify the party. Then just after the convention, Bush unloads the WMD news. Let the Rats hang themselves.

50 posted on 04/26/2004 8:20:25 AM PDT by PattonReincarnated (Rebuild the Temple)
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To: Iron Matron
"Iraqis oh-so-holy mosques. What better palce to hide WMD?"

Those mosques are the weapons of mass destruction!
51 posted on 04/26/2004 8:20:42 AM PDT by dalereed (,)
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To: Lando Lincoln
I have been through promises of an indictment of Hillary Clinton in Whitewater, of an indictment of Bill Clinton in the Paula Jones case, of Slick losing his composure in the Grand Jury video, and of evidence being presented on the Senate floor proving that Clinton raped Juanita Broaddrick.

I will believe WMD's have been found when they announce that they have found them, and not a minute before.

52 posted on 04/26/2004 8:26:24 AM PDT by L.N. Smithee (Just because I don't think like you doesn't mean I don't think for myself)
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To: Lando Lincoln
You wrote:

"I firmly believe that if the "Oil for Food" scandal is investigated to its complete conclusion, it will reveal that the UN weapons inspections were also compromised by payoffs."

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Absolutely, couldn't agree more...!!

The trick will be getting the media to fully report it.

FRegards,

53 posted on 04/26/2004 8:26:46 AM PDT by Osage Orange (Red Pagoda Mountain cigarettes....the official brand of the U.S.A. Democrat Party.)
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To: Lando Lincoln
Both senior administration officials spoke to Insight on condition that neither their name nor their agency be identified...

This kind of crap always taints the information for me, whether it's their side or ours doing it.

FMCDH

54 posted on 04/26/2004 8:28:48 AM PDT by nothingnew (KERRY: "If at first you don't deceive, lie, lie again!")
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To: MizSterious
More On WMD Search in Iraq
55 posted on 04/26/2004 8:30:31 AM PDT by MamaLucci (Libs, want answers on 911? Ask Clinton why he met with Monica more than with his CIA director.)
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To: nothingnew
It could be a warning mole telling the dems to watch out, or it could be the real thing preparing the stage. The CIA doesn't do background.

My guess is something is up. Normally I would agree with you but there is enough supporting WMD evidence already out there. Insight is a decent mag with good reporters.
56 posted on 04/26/2004 8:32:32 AM PDT by snooker
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To: dalereed
Those mosques are the weapons of mass destruction!


And as such, should be destroyed.
57 posted on 04/26/2004 8:32:50 AM PDT by Iron Matron (Troublemakers deserve the righteous ZOT!)
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To: Lando Lincoln
HAAA!!!!!!!
58 posted on 04/26/2004 8:32:57 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (<a href="http://www.michaelmoore.com" target="_blank">miserable failure)
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To: PattonReincarnated
Yeah, Bush may allow the Democrats to ape on about the WMDs at the convention before dropping the bomb on them, however, the Democrats will also be talking about other things, too. Since it's not Howard Dean they're putting out there I don't think WMDs are going to be a really huge issue at the Convention. Who knows, they may not even mention them at all.

This is why I think doing it right before - or even during - would be more likely, because the objective is to deprive them of any press coverage as much as possible. The convention is when they will be rallying their support, so you want to distract the media from covering it as much as possible.

Afterall, Bill Clinton didn't wait until after the impeachment hearings to bomb Iraq.
59 posted on 04/26/2004 8:34:35 AM PDT by counterpunch (<-CLICK HERE for my CARTOONS)
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To: Lando Lincoln
What is telling by the silence is, our congresscritters (except for a chosen few) are no longer talking about "No WMD's found". Why ?
60 posted on 04/26/2004 8:36:59 AM PDT by stylin19a (is it mogadishu yet ?)
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