Saudis Said to Aid Iraq War Extensively

Associate Press ^ | April 24, 2004 | By JOHN SOLOMON, Associated Press Writer

[happygrl]

This will enrage Al-Qaeda.

Perhaps a strategy to tease out terror cells within the country.

[Imal]

I'm sure glad no one knows about this.

[lepton]

This was essentially known. Saudi Arabia consistantly announces that they oppose us, and decline various forms of cooperation publicly, and cooperate "under the table". It's part of their political dance.

[ken5050]

SA as preently constituted is a "failed" state in waiting. The monarchy cannot continue to run things as they have. And it's too late for any reforms to take hold. THe military/police infrastructure thatpermits the princes to maintain control is rapidly crumbling...it's a mercenary force, and a few more attacks will cause massive defections....and the saudi leaders cannot ask the Americans to come back into the country to fight the terrorists...so, in my mind,it's a question of when..and when SA goes, Egypt will explode also..

[swarthyguy]

1. This may be to counter the "deal" hyped by the media fluffernutters from Woodie's book.

2. More important, Saudis have made up their minds, ie, the Pro Western faction, has won(hopefully), doesn't mind letting this info come out, regardless, because, after the death of Riyadh's police chief, know they're in a fight for survival and are choosing sides overtly and explicitly.

3. Makes the jihadis more motivated to start the Saudi Jihad. But that may not be a bad thing to resolve the issue. The confidence of the prowest faction may be high enough to make 'em say to the jihadis "bring it on".

[TADSLOS]

The House of Saud are masters in the game of fence walking.

[BillyCrockett]

"2. More important, Saudis have made up their minds, ie, the Pro Western faction, has won(hopefully), doesn't mind letting this info come out, regardless, because, after the death of Riyadh's police chief, know they're in a fight for survival and are choosing sides overtly and explicitly.

3. Makes the jihadis more motivated to start the Saudi Jihad. But that may not be a bad thing to resolve the issue. The confidence of the prowest faction may be high enough to make 'em say to the jihadis "bring it on"."

Plays right along with Dubya's "We'd rather give em early dirt naps in the Middle East instead of here in a large US city".

[traumer]

I wonder - to which side... ?

[luvbach1]

Fence walking, also know as fence straddling, is fraught with the dangers of falling off to one side or the other, or to landing in the middle, which is hardly more advantageous.

[swarthyguy]

HA That's what I thought at first, this was an expose of the Saudi aid, including jihadis to fight against America.

[Carry_Okie]

If anyone knows why the bin-Laden family and other Saudi royasl were shuffled out of America after 911, it is because Osama and crew may want a good many of them dead.

[FreeReign]

2. More important, Saudis have made up their minds, ie, the Pro Western faction, has won(hopefully), doesn't mind letting this info come out, regardless, because, after the death of Riyadh's police chief, know they're in a fight for survival and are choosing sides overtly and explicitly.

You may be right.

Or, it may not be a case of the P.W. faction overtly choosing sides. Instead, it may be a case of AP's unnamed source trying to "out" the P.W. faction before they are ready to take sides overtly.

The unnamed source may be trying to incite the Whab hordes.

[elfman2]

"and a few more attacks will cause massive defections....and the saudi leaders cannot ask the Americans to come back into the country to fight the terrorists"

I think they can, and we have the needed forces just a Sunday drive away.

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

And everyone thinks the war is just in Iraq and Afghanistan!

[xzins]

Much of the assistance has been kept quiet for more than a year by both countries for fear it would add to instability inside the kingdom. Many Saudis oppose the war and U.S. presence on Saudi soil has been used by Osama bin Laden (news - web sites) to build his terror movement.

So why mention it now?

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

Related thread:

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The sole obstacles to the wave of darkness are the Anglosphere -- and ironically for the Europeans -- Israel.

[KC Burke]

The House of Saud are masters in the game of fence walking.

It is probably more important to watch the House of Alshaikh. Have they mistakenly allowed a modern version of the Ikhwan to emerge from their ranks so that they can no longer bring into linetheir own forces to keep the age old alliance in place?

As the modern age extension of the line of Muhammad ibn Abd al-Wahhab, who originally, in 1744, found and empowered Muhammad ibn Saud, a minor, ambitious chief in the village of Diriyah, the Alshaikh are the problem now.

When the original Ikhwan rebellion almost toppled the House of Saud in 1929, they fell into step with the reactionary push of the revolt. In this case, the clerical side of the old alliance has failed to keep reactionary experimentalism in line and the result is bin Laden and other forces like him. The House of Saud has made the nation as prosperous, ordered, conservative and settled as the flip side of the alliance could have asked of them. It is the clerical side that has failed and allowed fitna to emerge. That Islamic form of public disorder was one of the main strains fought by the Wahhabs against the pagan disorder of the peninsula two centuries ago and they have fallen down and, in fact, provided parentage to the fitna.

[demlosers]

The House of Saud are masters in the game of fence walking.

My thoughts exactly.

[happygrl]

So why mention it now?

That's the $64,000 question.

This means something.

Freepers will figure it out.