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Saudis Said to Aid Iraq War Extensively
Associate Press ^ | April 24, 2004 | By JOHN SOLOMON, Associated Press Writer

Posted on 04/24/2004 11:40:10 AM PDT by happygrl

WASHINGTON - During the Iraq (news - web sites) war, Saudi Arabia secretly helped the United States far more than has been acknowledged, allowing operations from at least three air bases, permitting special forces to stage attacks from Saudi soil and providing cheap fuel, U.S. and Saudi officials say.

The American air campaign against Iraq was essentially managed from inside Saudi borders, where military commanders operated an air command center and launched refueling tankers, F-16 fighter jets, and sophisticated intelligence gathering flights, according to the officials.

Much of the assistance has been kept quiet for more than a year by both countries for fear it would add to instability inside the kingdom. Many Saudis oppose the war and U.S. presence on Saudi soil has been used by Osama bin Laden (news - web sites) to build his terror movement.

But senior political and military officials from both countries told The Associated Press the Saudi royal family permitted widespread military operations to be staged from inside the kingdom during the coalition force's invasion of Iraq.

These officials would only talk on condition of anonymity because of the diplomatic sensitivity and the fact that some operational details remain classified.

While the heart of the ground attack came from Kuwait, thousands of special forces soldiers were permitted to stage their operations into Iraq from inside Saudi Arabia, the officials said. These staging areas became essential once Turkey declined to allow U.S. forces to operate from its soil.

In addition, U.S. and coalition aircraft launched attacks, reconnaissance flights and intelligence missions from three Saudi air bases, not just the Prince Sultan Air Base where U.S. officials have acknowledged activity.

Between 250 and 300 Air Force planes staged from Saudi Arabia, including AWACS, C-130s, refueling tankers and F-16 fighter jets during the height of the war, the officials said. Air and military operations during the war were permitted at the Tabuk air base and Arar regional airport near the Iraq border, the officials said.

Saudis also agreed to permit search and rescue missions to stage and take off from their soil, the officials said.

Gen. T. Michael Moseley, a top Air Force general who was a key architect of the air campaign in Iraq, called the Saudis "wonderful partners" although he agreed to discuss their help only in general terms.

"We operated the command center at Saudi Arabia. We operated airplanes out of Saudi Arabia, as well as sensors, and tankers," said Moseley in an interview with the AP. He said he treasured "their counsel, their mentoring, their leadership and their support."

Publicly, American and Saudi officials have portrayed the U.S. military presence during the war as minimal and limited to Prince Sultan Air Base, where Americans have operated on and off over the last decade. Any other American presence during the war was generally described as humanitarian, such as food drops, or as protection against Scud missile attacks.

During the war, U.S. officials held media briefing about the air war from Qatar, although the air command center was in Saudi Arabia — a move designed to keep from inflaming the Saudi public.

U.S.-Saudi cooperation raised eyebrows last week after it was disclosed that President Bush (news - web sites) shared his Iraq war plans with Saudi ambassador Prince Bandar bin Sultan before the start of the war.

Some lawmakers have demanded to know why a foreigner was brought in on private war planning.

When asked about the briefing, Bandar played down the extent of Saudi help. "We were allies. And we helped our American friends in the way that was necessary for them. And that was the reality," he said.

U.S. and Saudi officials said Bandar was briefed several times before the war as part of securing Saudi assistance, and received regular updates as U.S. needs changed.

Preparations for U.S. operations inside Saudi Arabia started in 2002 when the Air Force awarded a contract to a Saudi company to provide jet fuel at four airfields or bases inside the kingdom, documents show.

When the war started, the Saudis allowed cruise missiles to be fired from Navy ships across their air space into Iraq. A few times missiles went off course and landed inside the kingdom, officials said.

The Saudis provided tens of millions of dollars in discounted oil, gas and fuel for American forces. During the war, a stream of oil delivery trucks at times stretched for miles outside the Prince Sultan air base, said a senior U.S. military planner.

The Saudis also were influential in keeping down world oil prices amid concern over what might happen to Iraqi oil fields. They increased production by 1.5 million barrels a day during the run-up to war and helped keep Jordan — which had relied on Iraqi oil — supplied.

Saudi officials said they also provided significant military and intelligence help on everything from issues of Muslim culture to securing the Saudi-Iraqi border from fleeing Saddam Hussein (news - web sites) supporters


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: allies; allysaudiarabia; alshaikh; annabk; arar; iraqifreedom; iraqwar; saudiarabia; southwestasia; tabuk; wahabbi
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1 posted on 04/24/2004 11:40:10 AM PDT by happygrl
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To: happygrl
This will enrage Al-Qaeda.

Perhaps a strategy to tease out terror cells within the country.

2 posted on 04/24/2004 11:41:42 AM PDT by happygrl (this war is for all the marbles...)
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To: happygrl
I'm sure glad no one knows about this.
3 posted on 04/24/2004 11:44:58 AM PDT by Imal (Given a choice between death and freedom, I'll choose freedom every time.)
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To: happygrl
This was essentially known. Saudi Arabia consistantly announces that they oppose us, and decline various forms of cooperation publicly, and cooperate "under the table". It's part of their political dance.
4 posted on 04/24/2004 11:45:57 AM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: happygrl
SA as preently constituted is a "failed" state in waiting. The monarchy cannot continue to run things as they have. And it's too late for any reforms to take hold. THe military/police infrastructure thatpermits the princes to maintain control is rapidly crumbling...it's a mercenary force, and a few more attacks will cause massive defections....and the saudi leaders cannot ask the Americans to come back into the country to fight the terrorists...so, in my mind,it's a question of when..and when SA goes, Egypt will explode also..
5 posted on 04/24/2004 11:46:14 AM PDT by ken5050 (Ann Coulter needs to have children ASAP to propagate her genes.....any volunteers?)
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To: happygrl
1. This may be to counter the "deal" hyped by the media fluffernutters from Woodie's book.

2. More important, Saudis have made up their minds, ie, the Pro Western faction, has won(hopefully), doesn't mind letting this info come out, regardless, because, after the death of Riyadh's police chief, know they're in a fight for survival and are choosing sides overtly and explicitly.

3. Makes the jihadis more motivated to start the Saudi Jihad. But that may not be a bad thing to resolve the issue. The confidence of the prowest faction may be high enough to make 'em say to the jihadis "bring it on".
6 posted on 04/24/2004 11:46:55 AM PDT by swarthyguy
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To: happygrl
The House of Saud are masters in the game of fence walking.
7 posted on 04/24/2004 11:51:51 AM PDT by TADSLOS (Right Wing Infidel since 1954)
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To: swarthyguy
"2. More important, Saudis have made up their minds, ie, the Pro Western faction, has won(hopefully), doesn't mind letting this info come out, regardless, because, after the death of Riyadh's police chief, know they're in a fight for survival and are choosing sides overtly and explicitly.

3. Makes the jihadis more motivated to start the Saudi Jihad. But that may not be a bad thing to resolve the issue. The confidence of the prowest faction may be high enough to make 'em say to the jihadis "bring it on"."

Plays right along with Dubya's "We'd rather give em early dirt naps in the Middle East instead of here in a large US city".

8 posted on 04/24/2004 11:52:58 AM PDT by BillyCrockett
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To: happygrl
I wonder - to which side... ?
9 posted on 04/24/2004 12:06:54 PM PDT by traumer
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To: TADSLOS
Fence walking, also know as fence straddling, is fraught with the dangers of falling off to one side or the other, or to landing in the middle, which is hardly more advantageous.
10 posted on 04/24/2004 12:07:35 PM PDT by luvbach1 (In the know on the border)
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To: traumer
HA That's what I thought at first, this was an expose of the Saudi aid, including jihadis to fight against America.
11 posted on 04/24/2004 12:08:43 PM PDT by swarthyguy
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To: happygrl
If anyone knows why the bin-Laden family and other Saudi royasl were shuffled out of America after 911, it is because Osama and crew may want a good many of them dead.
12 posted on 04/24/2004 12:09:22 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly evil.)
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To: swarthyguy
2. More important, Saudis have made up their minds, ie, the Pro Western faction, has won(hopefully), doesn't mind letting this info come out, regardless, because, after the death of Riyadh's police chief, know they're in a fight for survival and are choosing sides overtly and explicitly.

You may be right.

Or, it may not be a case of the P.W. faction overtly choosing sides. Instead, it may be a case of AP's unnamed source trying to "out" the P.W. faction before they are ready to take sides overtly.

The unnamed source may be trying to incite the Whab hordes.

13 posted on 04/24/2004 12:13:51 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: ken5050
"and a few more attacks will cause massive defections....and the saudi leaders cannot ask the Americans to come back into the country to fight the terrorists"

I think they can, and we have the needed forces just a Sunday drive away.

14 posted on 04/24/2004 12:23:41 PM PDT by elfman2
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To: swarthyguy; NormsRevenge; Carry_Okie; Grampa Dave; blam
And everyone thinks the war is just in Iraq and Afghanistan!
15 posted on 04/24/2004 12:29:11 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The terrorists and their supporters declared war on the United States - and war is what they got!!!!)
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To: happygrl
Much of the assistance has been kept quiet for more than a year by both countries for fear it would add to instability inside the kingdom. Many Saudis oppose the war and U.S. presence on Saudi soil has been used by Osama bin Laden (news - web sites) to build his terror movement.

So why mention it now?

16 posted on 04/24/2004 12:29:19 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army and Proud of It!)
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Related thread:

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The sole obstacles to the wave of darkness are the Anglosphere -- and ironically for the Europeans -- Israel.

17 posted on 04/24/2004 12:31:18 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The terrorists and their supporters declared war on the United States - and war is what they got!!!!)
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To: TADSLOS
The House of Saud are masters in the game of fence walking.

It is probably more important to watch the House of Alshaikh. Have they mistakenly allowed a modern version of the Ikhwan to emerge from their ranks so that they can no longer bring into linetheir own forces to keep the age old alliance in place?

As the modern age extension of the line of Muhammad ibn Abd al-Wahhab, who originally, in 1744, found and empowered Muhammad ibn Saud, a minor, ambitious chief in the village of Diriyah, the Alshaikh are the problem now.

When the original Ikhwan rebellion almost toppled the House of Saud in 1929, they fell into step with the reactionary push of the revolt. In this case, the clerical side of the old alliance has failed to keep reactionary experimentalism in line and the result is bin Laden and other forces like him. The House of Saud has made the nation as prosperous, ordered, conservative and settled as the flip side of the alliance could have asked of them. It is the clerical side that has failed and allowed fitna to emerge. That Islamic form of public disorder was one of the main strains fought by the Wahhabs against the pagan disorder of the peninsula two centuries ago and they have fallen down and, in fact, provided parentage to the fitna.

18 posted on 04/24/2004 12:31:49 PM PDT by KC Burke (Men of intemperate minds can never be free....)
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To: TADSLOS
The House of Saud are masters in the game of fence walking.

My thoughts exactly.

19 posted on 04/24/2004 12:38:06 PM PDT by demlosers (John Kerry is an insult to gigolos everywhere.)
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To: xzins
So why mention it now?

That's the $64,000 question.

This means something.

Freepers will figure it out.

20 posted on 04/24/2004 12:57:36 PM PDT by happygrl (this war is for all the marbles...)
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