[nmh]

Sometimes I wonder how conservative this forum is. Pat is right, yet some posters here belong on a liberal forum.

[kms61]

"Sometimes I wonder how conservative this forum is. Pat is right, yet some posters here belong on a liberal forum."

I also wonder how conservative this forum is. Some posters are awfully eager for government solutions to the problem du jour.

[little jeremiah]

Libertarians are pretty crazy. All utopian philosophies suffer from the grave defect which is that because they base their phantasmagoria of a future perfect society on the fallacy that people, if just placed in the right atmosphere, will be all improved. Will be all different (from how they've been all throughout history).

But libertarians are particularly noxious because of their uncontrollable yet not not openly admitted (although obvious to everyone else) strong attraction to vice, at least in theory. And, one would assume, often in practice.

How on earth the libertarian utopia would work with so many people addicted to various vices is hard to imagine!