Posted on 04/23/2004 2:43:12 PM PDT by SF Republican
John Kerry has a piece of shrapnel in his left thigh from an injury he suffered in the Vietnam War, his doctor said Friday during a review of 36 pages of the Democratic presidential candidate's military medical records.
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Yes, you've made your point...and it has some merit. You must understand, though, like one poster's tag line states, people like Kerry have been spitting on some of US for 30 years...and NOW we have a chance to spit back. I know, it's petty and not what Jesus would do. But 30 years of saliva from these twits...
It's lougeee time!!
I once stepped on a nail. Had I been standing on my head I could've been blinded. Where's my medal?
Frankly, Destro, I am not at all sure which side "your" side is.
Should we put Bush's service and Kerry's service on a scale?? Who did more?? Or do think attacking Kerry's war record will make Bush's lack of one less damaging an election issue?
So Bush "lacks a record"....... According to Destro.
Well, Destro, Bush has a service record, Kerry has a service record and I have a service record.
Among the four of us, the only one that does not have a service record is you.
It was never Kerry's intention to volunteer for anything that was the least bit dangerous. Bush on the other hand, volunteered to fly jet fighters.
Bush knew that, as a fighter pilot, he could end up in Vietnam combat.
Kerry never dreamed that he would ever end up in combat and it came as a total shock to him when he did.
While it is true that Kerry ended up in a war zone and Bush did not, that was only as a result of pure bad luck. Kerry has admitted that he tailored his Vietnam choices to stay out of combat and, once bad luck put him into combat, he did everything he could to weasel himself out of combat as soon as he could. "As soon as he could" translated into 4 months.
I have dealt with the issue of Kerry's Vietnam choices on one of my previous posts (below) that I repost from time to time for the benefit of Kerry hero-worshippers such as you and for the benefit of any members of the liberal press that may be lurking on FR.
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What bothered me about this article saying Kerry "only served" four months on a tour is that he had a cushy job on the big ship and opted to volunteer for his second tour of duty on a swift boat. In other words he took himself off the easy duty and into the harder combat seeing duty. That has to count for something.
That is what Kerry and the Democrats want us to believe and that is the version they are putting out. However, that version is pure Bravo Sierra and is not supported by the facts or by Kerry's own statements.
It would indeed be extremely admirable if Kerry had knowingly taken "himself off the easy duty and into the harder combat seeing duty".
However, Kerry never volunteered for combat or any duty he dreamed would get him into combat.
Kerry was the First Division Officer when he served on the USS Gridley.
What is "First Division"?
First Division is one of the "Deck Divisions" on a ship. In Navy slang, the "Deck Apes". They swab the decks. They chip paint. They paint the areas they finished chipping. After that, they swab, they chip and they paint some more. The bottom of the class at Navy Boot Camp ends up in a Deck Division.
In the Ward Room, the First Division Officer is the lowest guy in the ship's officers pecking order. When the XO or the CO need an S.L.J.O. (Shitty Little Jobs Officer), the First Division Officer is the guy that gets the job.
Kerry was in charge of the least skilled sailors in the lowest prestige division on his ship and, apparently, his C.O., Captain Slifer, was not making life very pleasant for our Boston Blue Blood who was more used to sailing on John F. Kennedy's yacht.
What to do?
Swift boats!
At the time, swift boats merely patrolled the coastline or ferried sailors between ships.
Most importantly, a lowly Lt.(j.g.) was the Officer in Charge (OIC).
Instead of being the SLJO on the USS Gridley, in charge of Deck Ape Division, with Captain Slifer making his life miserable, Kerry pictured himself as the OIC of his own boat, roaring up and down the South China Sea out of the war and with no Captain Slifer anywhere in sight.
But, don't take my word for it.
Let's hear it from John F. Kerry himself:
Two weeks after Kerry assumed command of his swift boat, Admiral Elmo Zumwalt put into effect his idea of getting those swift boats out of glorified water skiing duty........
.......into the shooting war in the rivers of the Mekong Delta.
Oooooops.
As Robert Burns once wrote, "The best laid plans of mice and men often go awry."
Kerry signed up for being OIC of his own water skiing boat and here he was in the middle of a friggin war!!
What does Kerry do now after he has gone from glorified water skier straight into deep kim-chee?
Well, Kerry then proceeds to rack up three Purple Hearts for "injuries" that kept him off duty for a grand total of.....drum roll, please..... two days of duty by his own admission and zero days according to his swift boat squadron C.O.
Kerry then sea-lawyered himself out of combat after only four months and requested a transfer as an "Admiral's aide", preferably in "Boston, New York or Washington".
When the Boston Globe asked Kerry to give permission for the release of his Navy medical records so that the Boston Globe could document what sort of injuries earned Kerry three Purple Hearts and a ticket out of combat after 4 months.........Kerry refused.
Every decision and/or request John F. Kerry ever made; from First Division Officer to swift boat OIC; from swift boat OIC to early termination of his combat tour; from early termination of his combat tour to Admiral's aide; from Admiral's aide to early discharge from active duty; from early discharge from active duty to politically-popular-in-Massachusets American-G.I.'s-are-war-criminals anti-war protestor.....
Every decision and/or request John F. Kerry ever made in his Navy career was made to further the comfort, safety and political ambitions of John F. Kerry.
Uhmm ... No.
The general lottery started December 1969. Before that from 1940 - '68 it was controlled by local draft boards.
That system was declared unconstitutional by the USSC on due process grounds; because too often, as punishment, the local draft boards would call up the A-1DQ (delinquent == war protesters) first.
Neither Bush or Jf'nK had a "lottery" number.
Noticed that too huh??
I smell fear
I smell Hillary . ....
Who might benefit from Kerry unraveling before the Democrat convention?
You might want to get in on libloather's March through November MADNESS! pool. IMHO, this is all just setup for the "soft Arkancide" Ke(rr)y will get on Day 2 of the RAT convention.
How did they get him to say this with a straight face?
(That was the only copy I could find, & I was too lazy to scan from my book.)
The last Navy man in our family was great-uncle Henry Augustus Dent, who was with Dewey at Manila Bay. So you can see how we might not be up to date on the details. I had heard of "Deck Apes" before, but didn't know exactly who or what they were (I mean, I've got a couple of "Yard Apes", but I'm sure it's not the same . . . :-D )
Ah good. This means you are going to "move on"?
You can't.
The image I used was a diferrent image that was not on a Tripod server.
Tripod is one of those servers that imediately blocks any links to it's images. There are a few other servers that do likewise.
One trick I have learned is to use the "Cached" link when you are doing a search on Google. Google apparently needs to link to a site before it copies it into it's archive and that is long enough for the Tripod image to replace the original image. So, when you bring up the "Cached" page on Google, you will not only see your highlighted keywords but also see the Tripod logo that tells you that you have to keep searching for a useable image on some oner web site.
For a famous painting, it was hard to find "Playing Old Soldier" on another site. I had to Google search with various combinations of "Homer Winslow", "Winslow", "Civil War", "Goldbrick", etc. before I could find another copy of it outside of Tripod that I could use.
I will avoid Tripod!
Of course, you have to remember that, at least back in the Old Days before it was discovered that everyone has an "Inner Child" whose self esteem needs to be stroked, a Navy ship was as Politicaly Incorrect as an all-boys high school with all the ribbing that brings.
The "Deck Apes" were not the only ones subjected to such ribbing.
Our ship had a Marine detachment aboard and the Marine Detatchment Officer's uniform was the camaflouged BDU that stood out like a sore thumb along side all the Navy officers in khaki. So, he was called "The Tree".........."This is our XO, CDR Wilson, this is our Doc, LT Polybius, this is our Tree, First Lieutenant Smith....."
In my case, whenever there was a Divison Officer's meeting where someone mentioned a bow compartment on the ship, the Chief Engineer would love to say, "For the benefit of the Doc, we should explain that the "bow" is "the pointy end of the ship". ;-)
Yes, let's rephrase that - a large group of communist wannabes
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