1 posted on
04/21/2004 11:24:55 AM PDT by
M 91 u2 K
To: M 91 u2 K
I heard this interview w/Eagleburger. He was nervous about saying what he said, but he had the guts to say it.
2 posted on
04/21/2004 11:46:52 AM PDT by
Endeavor
(Don't count your Hatch before it chickens)
To: M 91 u2 K
No disagreement with Eagleburger.
>We were able to defeat Hitler and his cohorts because
>we recognized the terrible danger they posed and
>united against them.
Don't forget the powerful 'American First' movement, headlined by the most popular man in America during the 1930s, Charles Lindbergh. Lindbergh was giving 'non-intervention' speeches until war was declared. Unity didn't emerge until after Pearl Harbor.
3 posted on
04/21/2004 11:50:04 AM PDT by
nonomous
To: M 91 u2 K
Obsessing about "winning hearts and minds" will be our grave -- it can never be done, and will only serve to embolden our enemies.
4 posted on
04/21/2004 11:54:42 AM PDT by
Mr. Mojo
To: M 91 u2 K
Well, I will now make myself terribly unpopular, but there's going to have to be some killing. I don't know any other way to put this. It's the only way to put it, Eagle.
7 posted on
04/21/2004 11:56:44 AM PDT by
Mr. Mojo
To: M 91 u2 K
I have said on this board before that I don't think we will win this war the way we are fighting it. We have not won a war (and a peace) since WWII. In every war since then we have been too afraid of what our enemy thinks of us to destroy them.
We won WWII because the country were totally defeated. The United States felt that our national survival was at stake, so we were willing to do what ever it took to win. Even if that meant bombing cities and killing thousands of civilians. We must completely defeat the Iraqi people's will to fight in the same way that we defeated the German people's will to fight. The only I can see for us to do that is to be willing to level a city if necessary. We are not willing to do that so I believe we can't win the peace.
To: M 91 u2 K
BUMP!
15 posted on
04/21/2004 12:19:38 PM PDT by
jmstein7
(Real Men Don't Need Chunks of Government Metal on Their Chests to be Heroes)
To: M 91 u2 K
Mid-January 1993 was when Clintoon took office since he was officially sworn round about January 20. Was Eagleburger the Secy of State for only one year, i.e. 1992?
21 posted on
04/21/2004 1:06:09 PM PDT by
lilylangtree
(Veni, Vidi, Vici)
To: M 91 u2 K
"administration itself triggered the current uprising"
General Myers said the same thing in his Pentagon briefing with Rumsfeld. Myers said "they knew" they were stoking a fire and that they would get a reaction .. they just weren't sure exactly what the reaction would be.[paraphrase]
This tells me that they had several contingencies in place - the only surprise was Ramadi. And I agree that this was done to keep it from erupting after the handover on June 30. Myers didn't say those exact words, but he inferred this festering pocket of resistance could not wait.
25 posted on
04/21/2004 2:16:58 PM PDT by
CyberAnt
(The 2004 Election is for the SOUL of AMERICA)
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