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Kerry Sandbagged Into Releasing Bad Performance Report From Navy Service In Vietnam.
The Smoking Gun ^
| U.S. Navy
Posted on 04/21/2004 8:57:47 AM PDT by MindBender26
John Kerry has just released his "Officer's Fitness Report" from his service in Vietnam. Kerry officials, with no knowledge of military operations, think the report is laudatory. In reality, it is disasterous.
Back in the Vietnam days, officers ratings were vastly inflated. To even be considered for promotion or a better assignment, an officer needed top grades in all categories. For example, in his book Colin Powell described how a dispute between his wife and his division commanders wife led to one mark in one category out of 14 being less than perfect, and how, until it was corrected by a general further up the chain of command, it would have stopped Powell at one star.
Back then, the verbal descriptions of an officers service were always laudatory, and virtually meaningless. Many raters used standard paragraphs to describe every subordinate from a future member of the Joint Chiefs to Beatle Bailey with gold bars in glowing terms.
The actual rating was effectively coded into the comparative section. There a Navy officer was rated in 16 categories such as Loyalty, Judgment, Courage, Personal Behavior, etc. Each officer would receive one of nine rankings, ranging from Exceptional to One of the Top Few, Above the Majority, down to Unsatisfactory in each of those 16 categories. Anything less than perfect in any of the 16 categories was a clear indication of an undesirable officer.
Remember, these rankings were highly inflated, with at least 60% of the officers having perfect rankings in all 16 categories. Most of the others would receive one ranking less than perfect in one category
. and their careers were effectively over.
Lt. Kerry received only 6 of 16 rankings in the highest category. The remaining marks for Judgment was one step down and 9 of the 16 other marks were two steps down. When ranking these Efficiency Reports arithmetically, when one down point could end a career, Kerry had 19 down points.
Is there any wonder why the Navy had no objection to his early return from Vietnam and his subsequent early removal from the service. They wanted him away from the guns, where he couldnt hurt Americans.
The Kerry Clowns tell us their man is fit to run the military and protect us. They are proven wrong for at least three reasons:
1. Kerrys prior anti-US statements shown to be lies.
2. Kerrys poor military performance, as shown in this report released today.
3. The lack of the senior staffs knowledge as to what this report really means, and how it further diminishes his campaign
. and his stature, such as it is.
TOPICS: Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: fitnessreport; kerry; lurch; militaryrecord; militaryrecords
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To: Endeavor
You mean Kerry wanted him, even if he WAS scum, as long as he was winning?
161
posted on
04/21/2004 1:09:43 PM PDT
by
Howlin
To: Howlin
I'm thinking that's correcto. He hired him, didn't he and only ditched him when Kerry looked ready for burial.
162
posted on
04/21/2004 1:23:30 PM PDT
by
Endeavor
(Don't count your Hatch before it chickens)
To: ThatsAllFolks2
I'm just relying on others who are familiar with the writing process and the inflated ratings. Just thinking that perhaps this might work out in Bush's favor afterall though I think something better than this will have to come up. Most folks aren't going to take the time to figure out military ratings.
To: HRoarke
I think that if there is a smoking gun that it lies in his tax records. Chris Lahane tried to make a stink about Kerry not releasing them once Lehane left to join Clark's campaign. When your former campaign manager, who now is working against you, starts asking for something, it's a pretty good indication of a black mark...Good point. How do have (or participate in having) $700 million in assets, several million dollar homes, etc, and not have a significant tax bill?
To: MindBender26
LMAO! I had 28 years in the Navy (including two tours in Vietnam). Kerry's record is one of "entirely satisfactory in present grade" (LTJG). Had he not had mentors who wanted to suck-up to this future member of Congress, he would have been passed over for O-3 and properly dumped out of the Navy. That they allowed him to award himself purple hearts and combat medals for scratches and then early-out of Vietnam for a cushy staff job is to the Navy's shame.
To: pepsionice
Thanks for the specifics on Navy ratings. They're a little different from service to service. Good info.
166
posted on
04/21/2004 3:00:03 PM PDT
by
xzins
(Retired Army and Proud of It!)
To: TexKat
Best to read entire postings. Many were written by officers who have been raters and reviewers. This will give you a better idea on why this was simply boilerplate for a marginal officer.
Also, since the Navy needed a QUANTITATIVE system for keeping/promoting officers, the X marks shown on top of page two were much more important that the verbal gymnastic skills of the rater.
167
posted on
04/21/2004 5:18:10 PM PDT
by
MindBender26
(For more news as it happens, news first, fast, 5 minutes sooner, stay tuned to FReeper Radio!)
To: SkyPilot
I don't know, I wasn't an officer, but was on Swift Boats in Nam, 1965-66, and this doesn't seem so bad to me.
The language is vague enough so that the Kerry nuts will wave it around everywhere, and those of us who know better will continue screaming the guy's a first class Clymer. (which he is)
To: pabianice
Don't have my notes, but I noticed in schools he was ranked 17 of 33? and 7 of 22?...not bad, but not good either.
I also like the parts where they stress he is a 'brilliant conversationalist'. Was it a requirement to discuss an officer's conversational skills, or was that a way to say "he's all talk" and, "I can't fill a single paragraph with meat"?
To: MindBender26
Bump
To: Maceman; All
Geez, is everyone here a novice?
The media will report how Kerry got PERFECT marks in the 6 categories, and 'near perfect' in ALL the others totally spinning the fact that this was a disaster into a 'great report'
Come on guys, this one was easy too...
171
posted on
04/21/2004 6:04:03 PM PDT
by
Mr. K
(ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,I stole this cuz its funny,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø))
To: Conspiracy Guy
You got that right AP has an article on Yahoo boasting how high Kerrys marks were. What did we expect ? But the good thing about it all is that everytime Kerry brings up Nam he also brings up his biggest flaw and that flaw is that most military Vets hate the guy.
To: mewzilla
...well, Brit Hume will, and maybe Rush, but not many more than that.
No big deal :) This is the age of the internet. Who needs the lamestream media anymore
What do you mean?? Brit Hume and Rush are not part of the lamestream media. They are the new media.
173
posted on
04/21/2004 6:46:43 PM PDT
by
Ethyl
To: So Cal Rocket
"To: kabar
Kohn Lehman (no date provided) who was Secretary of the Navy 5 Feb 1981 - 10 Apr 1987.
Would this be the SAME John Lehman, 9-11 Commissioner?
144 posted on 04/21/2004 11:17:01 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: kcvl
Yes... same guy.
145 posted on 04/21/2004 11:22:18 AM PDT by So Cal Rocket
Sweet Mother of G*d, there are no such things as "coincidences"....
174
posted on
04/21/2004 7:05:16 PM PDT
by
bitt
To: Hemingway's Ghost
He was actually a really good guy. He ran the whole show. I've often wondered if he made Chief or not. His last name is Smith though, so it was tough to check...
GREAT Westpac stories...old school.
175
posted on
04/21/2004 7:37:44 PM PDT
by
HRoarke
(F. John Kerry)
To: pabianice
I've always said that two anchors are better than one...
A-6's?
176
posted on
04/21/2004 7:42:37 PM PDT
by
HRoarke
(F. John Kerry)
To: John Lenin
I'm a Viet Nam Era Vet, USAF SAC 72-76, but I'd hate him even if I wasn't.
177
posted on
04/22/2004 4:33:09 AM PDT
by
Conspiracy Guy
(Believe nothing you hear and half of what you see.)
To: kabar
That's huge! Great catch!
178
posted on
04/22/2004 4:40:46 AM PDT
by
Glenn
(The two keys to character: 1) Learn how to keep a secret. 2) ...)
Comment #179 Removed by Moderator
To: kabar
"Brother" Lehman, to use "Brother" Jamie Gorelick's term when she spoke to him. And Kerry's a "Brother", too. Quite a Broderbund.
180
posted on
04/22/2004 6:56:24 AM PDT
by
bvw
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