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1 posted on 04/21/2004 4:15:14 AM PDT by billorites
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To: billorites
The ACLU has a lot of complaints about the Patriot Act. They don't like the "sneak and peak" searches, where LE gets in and out without the resident knowing about it. They don't like the unfettered access to business and other records. They don't like the power to hold people indefinitely without representation. I am sure there is more, but that is how much I remember.

And I still don't know if all of that is true and what I even think of it. The older I get, the dumber I get, I guess. But some of those powers do seem a little unwieldly. Big gubmint=not nice. No?
2 posted on 04/21/2004 4:29:41 AM PDT by Huck (In the Soviet Union, the Admin Moderators ruled.)
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Reno giving a little payback to McAuliff for stuffing her run for governor in Florida!!

Imagine waking up to find that ballot boxes were floating in the Bay.....

3 posted on 04/21/2004 5:40:27 AM PDT by OldFriend (Always understand, even if you remain among the few)
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Janet Reno is not someone I look to for reassurance that the Patriot Act is not an abuse of federal governmentmental powers...
6 posted on 04/21/2004 5:49:38 AM PDT by dirtboy (John Kerry - Hillary without the fat ankles and the FBI files...)
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To: billorites
Coming from the same woman who burned women and children to death with her gestapo actions. I feel so much better about the "patriot" act now.
7 posted on 04/21/2004 5:52:18 AM PDT by Merdoug
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a "jackbooted thugs" alert!

;-)
9 posted on 04/21/2004 6:15:38 AM PDT by MagnusMaximus1 (the issues of "God, guns, gays and abortion" WILL decide who wins or loses in 2004.)
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To: billorites
"What is unforgivable is opposing the Patriot Act even after 3,000 Americans were killed, partly because the FBI and CIA were so deeply dysfunctional."

No. What is unforgiveable is assaulting our freedoms, raping the Constitution and Bill of Rights, just so government bureaucrats may officially communicate and/or cooperate with each other.

There is no new information that the government had before 9/11 that this so-called "Patriot Act" would have provided back then anyway.
10 posted on 04/21/2004 6:22:03 AM PDT by MagnusMaximus1 (the issues of "God, guns, gays and abortion" WILL decide who wins or loses in 2004.)
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To: billorites
Even Reno testified in support of maligned Patriot Act

Of course she did. Hell, SHE PUSHED FOR SECRET SEARCHES when Klintler wanted it.

Patroit Act sucked then, and it sucks now.

12 posted on 04/21/2004 7:38:15 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan ("12 hours outta Mackinaw City, stopped at the bar to have a brew.....")
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Even Reno testified in support of maligned Patriot Act

Dealing with Waco heretics would be much easier using Patriot Act.

13 posted on 04/30/2004 2:20:01 AM PDT by A. Pole (<SARCASM> The genocide of Albanians was stopped in its tracks before it began.</S>)
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