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A HULL OF A HAUL (7,500 rifles and machine guns)
New York Post ^ | 4/21/04 | MURRAY WEISS and KATE SHEEHY

Posted on 04/21/2004 12:54:02 AM PDT by kattracks

Edited on 05/26/2004 5:20:50 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

April 21, 2004 -- A Turkish ship headed for New York - and stuffed with thousands of Kalashnikov assault rifles and AK-47s - was seized en route in Italy, authorities said yesterday.

The ship's deadly hoard of more than 7,500 terrorist-grade rifles and machine guns worth more than $6 million was discovered illegally hidden under piles of properly labeled arms in several massive cargo containers, Italian officials said.


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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bang; banglist; cache; interdiction; kalashnikov; waronterror
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1 posted on 04/21/2004 12:54:03 AM PDT by kattracks
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To: kattracks
--- terrorist-grade rifles---

---cartridges that can hold up to 30 rounds---

They need to get a gun person to proofread their copy, or perhaps someone literate to write it.
2 posted on 04/21/2004 1:06:13 AM PDT by claudiustg (Go Sharon! Go Bush!)
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To: claudiustg
I know what you mean. A "cartridge" IS a "round". It's a "MAGAZINE" or "CLIP" that holds multiple rounds.

"Assault-style" and "terrorist-grade" are just buzzwords to get the soccer moms all in a "tizzy-fit".
3 posted on 04/21/2004 1:20:07 AM PDT by Don W (If Mecca and Medina were vapourized, would radical Islamists "Get The Message"?)
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To: kattracks
The smuggled firearms BARF
4 posted on 04/21/2004 1:42:46 AM PDT by dasboot (I do not mock. Much.)
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To: kattracks
The NY Post's journalists may be 'conservative', but they're still New Yorkers.
5 posted on 04/21/2004 1:45:19 AM PDT by The KG9 Kid (Semper Fi)
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To: The KG9 Kid
Murray and Kate...

This is the second piece of trash I've seen by them posted here. Can you believe that it took two people to write this? They are an embarrassment to the paper. They are 22 years-old added together...or have a cumulative IQ of about 70.

If I were an editor or owner of the NYP, these clowns would be so fired. I wouldn't trust 'em to to workman-like obits.

6 posted on 04/21/2004 2:00:21 AM PDT by dasboot (I do not mock. Much.)
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To: kattracks
Documents showed the cargo containers were ultimately headed to a large U.S. company based in Georgia.

Officials refused to identify the business, citing security concerns and the ongoing investigation.

"We know that the [ship's] destination was North America, but we don't effectively know if that's where the [suspect] arms were going," one customs official told Italian state television.

The ship's cache of combat-style weapons was uncovered several days ago during a routine customs inspection at the Calabrian port of Gioia Tauro in southern Italy, officials said. They said they didn't reveal the bust at the time because of the continuing probe.

A continuing probe? After reading this article do you suppose the buyer is still sitting in his empty Georgia warehouse waiting for the shipment? The printing of this is story is another example of a media completely void of interest in the security of America.

7 posted on 04/21/2004 2:22:43 AM PDT by Robert Drobot (God, family, country. All else is meaningless.)
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To: kattracks
AK-47s also have been the weapon of choice for some infamous military-minded wackos, such as the teens who shot up Columbine HS in Littleton, Colo., in 1999.

The United States has banned such military-style semiautomatic weapons since 1994. The law preventing them from being manufactured, imported or sold here expires in September.


And with any luck, it will not be renewed, no matter what spin these two place on their story.
8 posted on 04/21/2004 3:04:58 AM PDT by Tarantulas
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To: claudiustg
Remember, Journalism is for those who can't handle the rigors of a English degree. It's( Journalism )is the equivalent of a Parks and Recreation degree, although not as physical. Basically it so that after four years of learning and know nothing about anything, and absent any productive trade or skill, one feels immensely competent to knowingly observe and strongly comment on things one knows nothing about.
9 posted on 04/21/2004 3:07:39 AM PDT by Leisler (Whatever it is you're doing, it's illegal now.)
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So they confiscated a bunch of semi-automatic firearms, some with bayonets and full capacity magazines. The gun laws we have need to change.
10 posted on 04/21/2004 3:12:25 AM PDT by nick89302
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To: kattracks
"The smuggled firearms included the lightweight combat Kalashnikov rifles, AK-47 assault rifles and SKA and Mauser rifles, authorities said."

"The AK-47s had been tampered with so they couldn't be rapidly fired, but the modification was one that could easily have been reversed, authorities said."

In other words, they were "de-milled" firearms that had been converted to "semi-auto only" configuration, and that were probably perfectly legitimate to own and sell.

11 posted on 04/21/2004 3:20:30 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel)
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To: Tarantulas
AK-47s also have been the weapon of choice for some infamous military-minded wackos, such as the teens who shot up Columbine HS in Littleton, Colo., in 1999.

The killers at Columbine used a couple of shotguns, a 9mm carbine, and a pistol. This article is an embarrasment

12 posted on 04/21/2004 3:34:17 AM PDT by jscd3
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To: Leisler
that used to be so, but now English departments have been taken over by left wing idealogues who have lost all sense of the actual sound of the language. They have ended the singing and the lilt and plod with agitprop.
13 posted on 04/21/2004 4:40:17 AM PDT by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them, or they like us?)
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To: kattracks
"The ship MS Adnan Bayraktar, which bears a Turkish flag..." Is it just me, or do others feel that Turkey bears closer watching? Somehow, I am never comfortable with our Turkish 'alliance'. They ask for so much and reciprocate with so little.
14 posted on 04/21/2004 4:41:40 AM PDT by SMARTY
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To: kattracks
Sent this off to the post online editor:

Where to begin.

"terrorist-grade rifles and machine guns"

What the hell does "terrorist grade" mean? and if the load did include machine guns, weapons which fire continuously as long as the trigger is held to the rear, why were they not listed in the story?

"lightweight combat Kalashnikov rifles, AK-47 assault rifles"

Umm...kalashnikovs ARE AKs...that's the "k" in "AK"

"Lightweight"? Not to anyone who's ever picked up any other modern weapon- AKs are notable for being significantly HEAVIER than more modern designs.

"SKA and Mauser rifles"

I'll bet $100.00 that the "SKA" should have been "SKS", a semi-automatic (one trigger pull= one round fired) only weapon. I've never heard of, nor does a quick googling provide hits on, "SKA rifle".

The "Mauser" is mostly likely a Model 98...i.e. a rifle introduced in 1898 that is bolt-action, just like grandad's hunting rifle.

"cartridges that can hold up to 30 rounds"

Cartridge = round. The poor little tykes were referring to MAGAZINES, which are the boxy things that hold cartridges or rounds.

"The AK-47s had been tampered with so they couldn't be rapidly fired"

From Webster's-

"Tamper- to interfere so as to weaken or change for the worse..."

"Modify"- a : to make minor changes in b : to make basic or fundamental changes in often to give a new orientation to or to serve a new end "

In this sense, what the kids meant to say was "modify"- i.e. "The weapons had been modified to fire only single shots."

"Osama bin Laden sported one in the now-infamous footage of him taken after 9/11."

Nope. the most common photos I've seen show him with a short-barreled AK74, which fires a smaller, higher velocity round than the AK47.

"AK-47s also have been the weapon of choice for some infamous military-minded wackos, such as the teens who shot up Columbine HS in Littleton, Colo., in 1999"

The AK may have been the weapon of choice for those wackos...BUT THEY DIDN"T HAVE ANY- they had shotguns, pistol caliber carbine, and some sort of jam-o-matic handgun with an external magazine.

I enjoy the post's editorial stance...but this story is laughably inept- I'd expect this from Time, Newsweek, or the NYT- not you guys.

rgds, mark sxxx Houston, Texas

15 posted on 04/21/2004 6:40:18 AM PDT by fourdeuce82d
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To: *bang_list
Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!
16 posted on 04/21/2004 6:43:23 AM PDT by Joe Brower (The Constitution defines Conservatism.)
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To: The KG9 Kid
Your point about still being New Yorkers is what?
17 posted on 04/21/2004 6:47:30 AM PDT by NYKbyD (Never Forget)
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To: kattracks
Through all the sensationalism, I think the firearms are completely legal, but have import restrictions.

Perhaps they were to be delivered after the AWB sunset, which would make the transaction completely legal.

Wierd that a paperwork SNAFU is causing this much press.

18 posted on 04/21/2004 6:56:19 AM PDT by Triple (All forms of socialism deny individuals the right to the fruits of their labor)
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To: kattracks
Turkish Mausers? OMG! We're doomed! [/sarcasm]
19 posted on 04/21/2004 9:08:54 AM PDT by TexasRepublic (Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition!)
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To: AmericanVictory
So true.
20 posted on 04/21/2004 9:53:52 AM PDT by Leisler (Whatever it is you're doing, it's illegal now.)
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