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To: Howlin
How did Kerry serve TWO tours of Vietnam, yet he was reportedly only there 4 or 6 months?? (I forget which one)

I keep hearing that but can't figure it out.
64 posted on 04/20/2004 5:16:14 PM PDT by Edit35
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To: dyno35
There is a GI movement in this country now as well as over there, and soon these people, these men, who are prescribing wars for these young men to fight are going to find out they are going to have to find some other men to fight them because are going to change prescriptions. They are going to have to change doctors, because we are not going to fight for them. That is what they are going to realize.

-- John Kerry, testifying before the Senate Committee on Foreign Relations, April 22, 1971


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69 posted on 04/20/2004 5:20:52 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: dyno35
He was there for a total of 4 months.
70 posted on 04/20/2004 5:21:28 PM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (FOX, CNN, ABC, CBS, NBC The big 5 liberal media. Read Free Republic instead and learn the truth.)
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To: dyno35; Darlin'

John Kerry

February 18, 1966:
A senior at Yale, Kerry commits to enlist in the Navy.

December, 1967:
Kerry is assigned as an Ensign to the guided-missile frigate USS Gridley. After five-months aboard, he returns to San Diego to undergo training to command a Swift boat, used by the Navy for patrols in Vietnam.



June, 1968:
Kerry is promoted to Lieutenant.

November 17, 1968:
Kerry arrives in Vietnam, where he is given command of Swift boat No. 44, operating in the Mekong Delta.

December 2, 1968:
Kerry gets his first taste of intense combat, and is wounded in the arm. He is awarded a Purple Heart.




January, 1969:
Kerry takes command of a new Swift boat, completing 18 missions over 48 days, almost all in the Mekong Delta area.

February 20, 1969:
Kerry is wounded again, taking shrapnel in the left thigh, after a gunboat battle. He is awarded a second Purple Heart.

February 28, 1969:
Kerry and his boat crew, coming under attack while patroling in the Mekong Delta, decide to counterattack. In the middle of the ensuing firefight, Kerry leaves his boat, pursues a Viet Cong fighter into a small hut, kills him, and retreives a rocket launcher. He is awarded a Silver Star.

March 13, 1969:
A mine detonates near Kerry's boat, wounding him in the right arm. He is awarded a third Purple Heart. He is also awarded a Bronze Star for pulling a crew member, who had fallen overboard, back on the boat amidst a firefight.

April, 1969:
According to Navy rules, sailors that have been wounded three times in combat are eligible to be transfered to the U.S. for noncombat duty. Kerry is transferred to desk duty in Brooklyn, NY.

January 3, 1970:
Kerry requests that he be discharged early from the Navy so that he can run for Congress in Massachusetts' Third District. The request is granted, and Kerry begins his first political campaign.

February 1970:
Kerry drops his bid for the Democratic nomination and supports Robert F. Drinan. Drinan, a staunch opponent of the war, wins the race and goes on to serve in Congress for ten years.

June 1970:
Kerry joins Vietnam Veterans Against the War, and becomes one of the group's unofficial spokespeople.


April 23, 1971:
Kerry helps to organize a huge anti-war protest outside Congress, earning a place on president Richard Nixon's "enemies' list." He joins a group of Vietnam veterans who throw medals and campaign ribbons over a fence in front of the Capitol.

April 23, 1971:
Kerry testifies before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. He tells lawmakers: "How do you ask a man to be the last man to die for a mistake?"

November 10, 1971:
Kerry quits Vietnam Veterans Against the War.

April 1972:
Kerry moves to Massachusetts' 5th District to run for Congress again. He wins the Democratic nomination but loses to Republican Paul Cronin, in part because of his anti-war views.

November 1972:
After losing the election, Kerry is hired as a regional coordinator for Cooperative for American Relief to Everywhere(CARE).

September, 1973:
Kerry enrolls at Boston College Law School.

71 posted on 04/20/2004 5:21:28 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: dyno35
How did Kerry serve TWO tours of Vietnam, yet he was reportedly only there 4 or 6 months?? (I forget which one)

His people keep referring to his deployment on USS Gridley (CG-21, formerly DLG-21) as a tour. It wasn't; it was a WestPac deployment, more commonly termed a cruise. It wasn't the best of duty but it certainly wasn't the worst either.

81 posted on 04/20/2004 5:30:39 PM PDT by Bob (Tonkin Gulf Yacht Club, 1972)
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To: dyno35
His first tour was on a carrier in an electronics unit, not in country. He then volunteered to be a skipper of a small boat like his hero JFK. Once there he figured out how to get back out as quickly as he could -- three purple hearts in four months. Some hero!
137 posted on 04/21/2004 5:01:30 AM PDT by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them, or they like us?)
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