[Steve_Seattle]

I wonder what the liberal response to these people is? "Understand" them? Give them what they want, the Islamicization of the West? Strange as it may seem, I am beginning to think the latter may be true. I think liberals secretly hate the very freedom and secularism they have helped create; irreligious and guilt-ridden, disdainful of consumerism, maybe liberals secretly want the Bin Laden's of the world to punish them/us and force us into a "purer" world, the kind of Spartan world that the Leftist elite always wants to force upon the masses. I know a guy who thinks the people in the Twin Towers got exactly what they deserved, and I think millions of liberals secretly think the same thing, that America is a corrupt, decadent society that needs cleansing from a primitive source such as radical Islam.

[Montaignes Cat]

I think liberals secretly hate the very freedom and secularism they have helped create

The liberals alive today didn't create anything. They are the inheritors of what others, classic liberals among them, and men of conscience and action, created in the past. We are the inheritors of the bold risk takers of the English Revolution and the American Revolution, amongst other courageous people of the past.. The current generation in England and Europe does not have that vision or spine, and many here in the U.S. don't either.

[monkeywrench]

Exactly right. This whole thing is a war between the left and right. The islammees are their tool.

[swarthyguy]

You're on to something. Much like Englishmen like Lawrence, who was captivated by the stark vistas of Arabia along with the austere life of the Arab which included Islam and many other Westerners (H. Philby) who fell in love with the demanding and strict doctrines of Islam, the lefties seek a spiritual purge without formally acknowledging religion. They agree with the anti captialistist financial laws of islam which could easily be plugged into existing lefty doctrine.

Much like the Englishmen of yesteryear, they admire the strictness of Islam which they secretly covet and admire enviously for the piety of its adherents and the intensity of the islamis faith.