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This is too good to be true, we may soon be able to renounce are citizenship, but retain the right to vote, as described, and we can still work, bank, own property, be issued drivers license, yet we won't have to pay taxes, be accountable for crimes or have to pay back our loans!
1 posted on 04/19/2004 6:22:36 PM PDT by seastay
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To: seastay
Bloomberg would do it too... big mistake
2 posted on 04/19/2004 6:26:36 PM PDT by cyborg (The 9-11 commission members have penis envy.)
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To: seastay
Insanity
3 posted on 04/19/2004 6:27:55 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: seastay
This is too good to be true, we may soon be able to renounce are citizenship, but retain the right to vote, as described, and we can still work, bank, own property, be issued drivers license, yet we won't have to pay taxes, be accountable for crimes or have to pay back our loans!

It does not work that way, if you renouce your citzenship, you lose your right to vote and you have to continue paying US income tax for the next ten years. While on the other hand a illegal immigrant can come into the country and has the right to medical treatment, to vote and does not have to pay any Federal taxes.

This is one of the major reasons I don't think the Federal Government of this country has much future left.

4 posted on 04/19/2004 6:30:16 PM PDT by Paul C. Jesup (The Motto: 'Live and let live' is a suicidal belief...)
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To: seastay
yet we won't have to pay taxes, be accountable for crimes or have to pay back our loans!

What do any of these things have to do with citizenship?

7 posted on 04/19/2004 6:35:02 PM PDT by Dinsdale
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To: seastay
Hey why not? Why keep pretending that a nation-state with shared values and language, and meaningful borders exists anymore? Put up the "NAFTA Central Zone" flag and be done with it.
8 posted on 04/19/2004 6:37:00 PM PDT by dagnabbit (Islamic Immigration is the West's Suicide)
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To: seastay
...voice on local issues ranging from sewer improvements to public school construction for everyone who pays local taxes.

I would really like to see voting restricted to citizens who are taxpayers.

There is no good reason why we should allow freeloaders to vote themselves more and more of our tax money.

For anyone who doesn't like the concept I have three words: Get a job.

10 posted on 04/19/2004 6:44:55 PM PDT by CurlyDave
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If you're a liberal reporter, how do you push your agenda of allowing illegal aliens to vote?

Well, first you adjust a few words and come up with the harmless-sounding phrase "immigrant voting rights".

Then, you put that phrase in an article, and throw in a few stock phrases like "a movement is growing", to make the reader feel like he is in the minority if he is opposed. Presto! By careful selection of language, you have tricked your readers into supporting something called "immigrant voting rights".

When one labels the issue truthfully, as "allowing illegal alines to vote", it has no support. But through a simple linguistic transformation, readers are deceived, and are made to support that which they would normally find repugnant.

We used to call that simple linguistic transformation by another name -- lying. But that was a long time ago.

12 posted on 04/19/2004 6:50:53 PM PDT by Yalta
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The idea of allowing non-citizens to vote is so crazy that even The New York Times is opposed.
13 posted on 04/19/2004 6:51:15 PM PDT by quadrant
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The idea of allowing non-citizens to vote is so crazy that even The New York Times is opposed.
14 posted on 04/19/2004 6:51:32 PM PDT by quadrant
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To: seastay
In a time when we ought to be making membership in this club known as the USA *more exclusive* these suicidal voices are gaining in intensity. I really wonder how much longer we can remain viable as a nation. To be fair, we (e.g. those of us who call ourselves conservatives) carry our share of blame. When I write the "N" word (Nationalism) on this forum, the epithets, ad hominem attacks, and all other sorts of BS start to fly. If we can't even get our act together on the Right, and agree regarding Borders, Language and Culture, there is no hope; none whatever.
16 posted on 04/19/2004 6:55:06 PM PDT by GOP_1900AD (Un-PC even to "Conservatives!" - Right makes right)
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Immigrants' voting rights becoming a major issue

Screw 'em until they become citizens. (And we should be very selective of whom we allow to become citizens.)

17 posted on 04/19/2004 6:59:35 PM PDT by VadeRetro (Faster than a speeding building! Able to leap tall bullets in a single bound!)
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To: seastay
Anyone believing this would be contained to local elections, send me your name and a $10 bill - QUICK!!
18 posted on 04/19/2004 7:05:25 PM PDT by azhenfud ("He who is always looking up seldom finds others' lost change...")
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To: seastay
You don't have to be an American to vote. Why bother having a country if every one gets to have a say here? <sarcasm
26 posted on 04/20/2004 12:05:39 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: seastay
Officials in San Francisco talked about allowing non citizens to vote a few years ago and it died on the vine. Considering the mood in CA., where they will not allow illegals to get drivers licenses, I think the voters are in no mood to allow non citizens, legal or not, the right to vote. Also, the CA. constitution requires all voters in the state to be US citizens.
27 posted on 04/20/2004 10:45:33 AM PDT by Uncle Hal
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