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Document: Oklahoma City Bombing Was Taped
AP via Yahoo! ^ | April 19, 2004 | John Solomon

Posted on 04/19/2004 1:23:06 PM PDT by RippleFire

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To: patriot_wes
Well, I know this...there were cameras all around the area. There were cameras on the federal building, that as I remember looked up and down 5th Street (the street the truck was parked on). There were cameras on adjacent buildings, pointed in various directions. There had to be video of a lot of the incident. I tend to believe the secret service reports.
481 posted on 04/21/2004 5:50:44 AM PDT by yukong
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To: patriot_wes
Well, I know this...there were cameras all around the area. There were cameras on the federal building, that as I remember looked up and down 5th Street (the street the truck was parked on). There were cameras on adjacent buildings, pointed in various directions. There had to be video of a lot of the incident. I tend to believe the secret service reports.
482 posted on 04/21/2004 5:50:45 AM PDT by yukong
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To: ovrtaxt
>But if he wrote this from his prison cell, it isn't the same document as the one found in his sister's

Thank you! I'd never
read this. The source of this is
Media Bypass.

I'd heard of it, but
I had never tracked it down
because I'd seen it

described as McVeigh
speaking on his family! *
Yikes. I should have known.

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* "... In addition, Mr. McVeigh did grant an interview, concerning only his family and military background, to Media Bypass Magazine. Since Mr. McVeigh's transfer to the Federal Correctional Institution at Englewood, counsel for Mr. McVeigh has permitted Tom Brokaw from NBC News and Scott Pelley from CBS News to meet, film and record a very brief casual meeting with Mr. McVeigh. ... "

483 posted on 04/21/2004 7:46:26 AM PDT by theFIRMbss
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To: archy
That photo is quite damning. The dangling rebar with only small amounts of concrete left around the support columns would indicate a massive explosion underneath the street level. A micro nuke could do this, and it fits the profile of blowing/burning up one's own buildings and killing citizens to ram through stalled legislation.(Waco, Columbine)

The fact that the government moved quickly to demolish the rest of the building (aka destroy the evidence) makes complete sense if they used a micro nuke. They took all the debris and buried it and sealed it with concrete. Kinda precludes anyone discovering Plutonium 239 particles later.

Why is it our goobermint always seals things up for 100 years or buries the debris in concrete? (First shuttle wreckage, for another example) They wouldn't be HIDING anything, would they?

484 posted on 04/21/2004 8:49:11 AM PDT by JOAT
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To: patriot_wes
Word has it there were as many as 8 tapes from nearby buildings rolling at the time the truck arrived, according to local news reports following the event. None of these tapes [which were confiscated by the FBI] were ever shown to the public or returned to the owners.

Hate to sound too "cynical" but I think this demonstrates the absolute neccesity of making copies of anything before turning them over to authorities. The Zapruder film comes to mind. Of course, don't be stupid enough to tell anyone you made a copy either.

485 posted on 04/21/2004 8:52:10 AM PDT by JOAT
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To: JOAT
(First shuttle wreckage, for another example)

Denial is a powerful motive. I know LOTS of people who immediately began to convince themselves the Challenger crew died instantly. I know enough about what it takes for things to explode violently enough to do that to know it didn't happen, and that the astronauts were well aware of what was going on all the way in.

Public myth-making is a facinating process. So is the destruction of those myths. The trust has inherent value. I hope the truth here comes out.

486 posted on 04/22/2004 5:07:44 AM PDT by eno_ (Freedom Lite - it's almost worth defending)
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To: JOAT
This sure as hell dropped off the radar fast didn't it?
487 posted on 04/22/2004 9:37:32 PM PDT by WhirlwindAttack (Invite a muslim to a hog roast and make your day)
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To: Tymesup
parking lot video tape was from southwestern bell parking lot, walked through it many times.
488 posted on 04/23/2004 8:32:48 AM PDT by job (Dinsdale?Dinsdale?)
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To: WhirlwindAttack
This sure as hell dropped off the radar fast didn't it?

Sure did. They really don't want this story getting 'legs.'

Even if a video surfaced, they would simply write it off as more members of McVeigh's 'cell' and use it as justification to crack down on 'extreme right-wingers' and/or to create a domestic CIA. In fact I believe they will do this as soon as we conveniently have another terror incident.

489 posted on 04/23/2004 8:46:13 AM PDT by JOAT
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To: WhirlwindAttack
I can't believe you're not spinning any of this.

What's to 'spin' - the facts are facts, they *are* out there for the prudent to see, and the rest is hyperbole, 'spinning' and the intentional ignorance of those facts *for* the purpoe of book-sales (Jayna Davis comes to mind) ...

1)

IN RE: OKLAHOMA COUNTY    ]
GRAND JURY                ]    No. CJ-95-7278
                          ]

 
          FINAL REPORT OF THE GRAND JURY
www.oklahomacounty.org/GrandJuryReport.htm

2)

The Oklahoma City Bombing Trial Transcripts (McVeigh)

3)

The Thrill of a Good Conspiracy -
Iraq and the Oklahoma bombing case

4)

McVeigh admits he worked alone, shows no remorse

5

The amended criminal complaint issued by the FBI against Terry and James Nichols, who allegedly participated in the manufacture of the explosive devices used in the Oklahoma City bombing. - Details on explossive 'experiments' by Nichols, et al.

490 posted on 04/24/2004 12:16:22 PM PDT by _Jim ( <--- Ann C. and Rush L. speak on gutless Liberals (RealAudio files))
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To: WhirlwindAttack
Working overtime on 911 testimony?

Goofball ... try to mis-represent my position on this subject?

491 posted on 04/24/2004 12:17:46 PM PDT by _Jim ( <--- Ann C. and Rush L. speak on gutless Liberals (RealAudio files))
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To: marty60
I never felt 'comfortable' with the white supremacist blame game the Clinton admin. pinned OKC to. Throughout the entire investigation and subsequent indictments and conviction of McVeigh I felt something was being covered up. When TWA 800 happened I had the same feeling we were being fed a coverup story. If this is true, why won't Republicans in Congress pursue bringing truth to light? Why won't the Bush admin demand a thorough investigation? Is there nothing there? Do both parties have something to hide? Perhaps Republicans fear a breech of National Security if they attempt to shine light on these events.
492 posted on 04/24/2004 12:44:45 PM PDT by antceecee (God bless and shield our troops from harm.)
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To: antceecee
The national security thing might be the reason, but, sometimes Republicans that have been in D.C. to long, get into the whole "public can't take it" mindset. If there is good sound reasoning and evidence that the Thing through total incompetence or malevolent political reasons stood by and did nothing when we were being attacked, the PUBLIC MUST KNOW.

Frankly, I don't believe that the Thing was a serious "man". He talked people to death, and held meetings and partied. This was the mo of the 60's bunch. While most people were working, starting families, or dying in VN, they were sitiing around talking, smoking dope, and going to meetings. ___________ Fill in Commie front group name. Kerry is the exactly the same.

493 posted on 04/25/2004 10:34:04 AM PDT by marty60
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To: gwjack
Have you read Jayna's book?
494 posted on 04/25/2004 10:46:52 AM PDT by mathluv (Protect my grandchildren's future. Vote for Bush/Cheney '04.)
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To: archy
I do believe, no, I KNOW, we've been down this road before...that picture is WTC 1 in '93. It even says '93 in the photo.
Remember now?
495 posted on 04/25/2004 11:14:43 AM PDT by philman_36
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To: upchuck
BTTT
496 posted on 04/25/2004 11:19:30 AM PDT by Unicorn (Two many wimps around)
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To: philman_36
I do believe, no, I KNOW, we've been down this road before...that picture is WTC 1 in '93. It even says '93 in the photo.

Remember now?

Whoops, you're correct- I had it for purposes of comparison with the size of the plywood-covered crater at the Murrah Building. I'll track the right one down.

Thanks for catching that.

497 posted on 04/25/2004 11:29:44 AM PDT by archy (The darkness will come. It will find you,and it will scare you like you've never been scared before.)
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To: _Jim
We have argued this ad nausium on this site, to the banning of many. My own personal belief is that the 'Toon covered this, as he covered a lot of things, by blaming it on some imaginary conspiracy.

The truth is that neither 'Toon nor the federal agencies had the nads to think of outside agents, he mght have had to do something.

498 posted on 04/25/2004 11:43:09 AM PDT by Little Bill (John F'n Kerry is Swine, I want to see the MS's tax returns!)
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To: mathluv
I am in the process of reading Jayna Davis' book. I'll let you know when completed.

Gwjack

499 posted on 04/26/2004 9:32:04 AM PDT by gwjack (Will Rogers never met the current democrats.)
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To: gwjack
I bought it for my son's birthday - July. I may have to break down and read it first.
500 posted on 04/26/2004 12:08:27 PM PDT by mathluv (Protect my grandchildren's future. Vote for Bush/Cheney '04.)
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