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Rethinking Armageddon
Wall Street Journal | April 18th,2004 | Editorial Page

Posted on 04/18/2004 5:29:33 PM PDT by RocketJsqurl

The case for new low-yield nukes.

No one likes to consider the possibility of nuclear war. But somebody's got to do it, and that sober duty fell recently to a special task force of the Defense Science Board, which has just recommended useful changes to the U.S. strategic arsenal to fit our post-September 11 world. First we should note what the task force does not want to change--the high threshold for use of nuclear weapons. "It is, and will likely remain, American policy to keep the nuclear threshold high and to pursue non-nuclear attack options whenever possible. Nothing in our assessment or recommendations seeks to change that goal," the panel writes. "Nevertheless, in extreme circumstances, the president may have no choice but to turn to nuclear options."

The scenarios the task force envisions aren't, regrettably, all that extreme. High on the list would be eliminating an enemy's weapons of mass destruction before it has a chance to use them on us. (Think rogue states and assorted terrorist groups.) Or removing an adversary's regime while saving a country (North Korea). Or ending a WMD war quickly (India-Pakistan).

The task force argues that we need a better nuclear doctrine than the mutually assured destruction, or MAD, of the Cold War. Current plans to refurbish the nation's stockpile of nuclear weapons from the 1970s and '80s "will not meet the country's future needs," the report says. Large, high-fallout nuclear weapons designed to obliterate cities won't deter terrorists who might doubt that a President would use them in response to an attack.

Rather, the task force wants to see the U.S. nuclear arsenal expanded to include more precise, lower-yield weapons--especially those that could penetrate targets buried deep underground where conventional weapons can't reach. The idea is to give a President the option of incinerating enemy weapons, leaders and command-and-control systems with as little damage as possible to civilians. Having the option of highly precise nuclear weapons with greatly reduced radioactivity would also make the threat of their use more believable to terrorists contemplating attacks on the U.S. or allies.

The panel has a host of additional recommendations that don't include nukes. It wants a new cruise missile with a conventional warhead that could be launched from an offshore submarine and strike a target 1,500 miles away in 15 minutes. It recommends that the 50 Peacekeeper intercontinental ballistic missiles now scheduled for deactivation be refitted with conventional warheads and deployed to Cape Canaveral in Florida and Vandenberg Air Force Base in California. This would give the U.S. "a 30-minute response capability for strategic strike world-wide." Like just about every report out of the Pentagon these days, the task force highlights the need for better intelligence. In the context of the U.S. strategic forces, the task force wants better human intelligence, better technology and more creative thinking. One recommendation calls for the development of "cyberspies"--electronic sensors that flesh-and-blood spies could place on potential targets and which could then be tracked and targeted from space.

The report hasn't got a lot of attention outside the Pentagon. Inside the building is another story. The Defense Science Board, chaired by William Schneider, is a prestigious body whose recommendations are taken seriously and often translated into action.

None of this is likely to go down well with critics in Congress who immediately deem any proposed change in nuclear policy to be provocative. They are already on record as opposing the Bush Administration's push for the development of new low-yield nukes.

The use of nuclear weapons remains a last resort. No American President wants to cross that threshold. But if he has to, to protect American lives, surely it's preferable to have the option of using a highly precise, low-yield weapon that strikes a specific target than the Armageddon alternative that prevailed during the Cold War.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: mininuke; nukes
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This is the first editorial I've read regarding this topic. I can't see how we can defeat the radical Muslims without the use of our "Trump Card",our Nuclear arsenal. I don't think our enemy thinks we have the guts to use them.
1 posted on 04/18/2004 5:29:33 PM PDT by RocketJsqurl
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To: RocketJsqurl
50 Peacekeeper intercontinental ballistic missiles now scheduled for deactivation be refitted with conventional warheads

SCUD storm. Not real effective. Not cheap.

2 posted on 04/18/2004 5:33:53 PM PDT by RightWhale (Theorems link concepts; proofs establish links)
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To: RocketJsqurl
If 3000 deaths on 911 isn't enough to use a nuke, say on TORA BORA, when we virtually KNEW OBL was there, then what will it take, 30,000, 300,000? I think our timidity in using Low Yield nukes is a result of the feminization of America and the PC culture that permeates our society today.

It is ONLY a matter of time before we are HIT again and I for one do NOT believe it will be SMALLER than 911, but much larger and of course the only way that can happen, is by the use of WMD.

3 posted on 04/18/2004 5:40:26 PM PDT by PISANO (Our troops...... will NOT tire...will NOT falter.....and WILL NOT FAIL!!!)
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To: RocketJsqurl
Having the option of highly precise nuclear weapons with greatly reduced radioactivity would also make the threat of their use more believable to terrorists contemplating attacks on the U.S. or allies.

Somehow, I doubt that a terrorist cell in the middle of NYC or LA would particularly mind being the recipient of a Nuke strike. Nukes are for striking enemy countries and conventional enemy armies. Terrorism is not a country and it is not a conventional army.

4 posted on 04/18/2004 5:47:16 PM PDT by templar
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To: PISANO
Our enemies goal is to nuke us. They will use one as soon as they can. We better get serious.
5 posted on 04/18/2004 5:48:16 PM PDT by RocketJsqurl
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To: PISANO
something I saved for a rainy (scary) day:

http://www.techcentralstation.com/032904F.html
6 posted on 04/18/2004 5:49:06 PM PDT by bitt
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To: templar
Terroism is a series of countries. Eight in particular. We topple these eight and we will prevail
7 posted on 04/18/2004 5:49:48 PM PDT by RocketJsqurl
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To: RocketJsqurl
We may not, but Israel has the courage to use theirs.
8 posted on 04/18/2004 5:57:25 PM PDT by hope (How far will your passion take you?)
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To: RocketJsqurl
Eight in particular. We topple these eight and we will prevail

Consider first that those eight have ownership of enough of our debt and dollars to topple us by dumping it. Why do you think the Saudi's get a free ride? The blessings of free trade, the balance of trade deficit, and the resulting foreign financing of our government.

9 posted on 04/18/2004 5:59:07 PM PDT by templar
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To: RightWhale
SCUD storm. Not real effective. Not cheap

Not exactly. First you could reach out and touch some within 30 minutes anywhere on the planet. Second it carries a MIRV warhead. Third you can use precision guidance on the warhead ( unlike the SCUD where you fire then check CNN to see what you hit). Yes expensive, but having that capability of range, punch, speed and precision could be priceless. Picture a Predator seeing a camp with a clear image of Bin Laden and his boys. Or seeing the North Koreans opening silo doors and fueling up their handful of missles. You need to hit them RIGHT NOW.
10 posted on 04/18/2004 6:05:09 PM PDT by Kozak (Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
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To: RocketJsqurl
"...It wants a new cruise missile with a conventional warhead that could be launched from an offshore submarine and strike a target 1,500 miles away in 15 minutes..."

This means...100 miles/minute....6000 mph...this is what...mach 8??? I'd give a week's wages to see this...WOW!!!...

Believe it when I see it.....
11 posted on 04/18/2004 6:08:53 PM PDT by Renfield
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To: RocketJsqurl
Terroism is a series of countries. Eight in particular. We topple these eight and we will prevail

Willing to nuke France? A lot of the problem between Israel and the Palestinians is kept going by France, and due to France is likely unresolvable.

12 posted on 04/18/2004 6:25:38 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: Renfield
Want to go for a ride?

Didn't NASA just test a Mach6 vehicle?

13 posted on 04/18/2004 6:43:08 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: templar
"Consider first that those eight have ownership of enough of our debt and dollars to topple us by dumping it."

Think that one through again...in light of the fact that our 'dollars' are simply NOTES which is really debt anyway...the dollar has value because America is the world's most POWERFUL NATION.

Which is why all the enemies without and within are trying to attack us financially ALL THE TIME....
14 posted on 04/18/2004 6:47:24 PM PDT by ApesForEvolution (FREE 3D Online Golf Game - Independent Reseller of the Week: http://egolfinternational.com/wig)
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To: PISANO
I agree with that asmt.
15 posted on 04/18/2004 6:48:36 PM PDT by ApesForEvolution (FREE 3D Online Golf Game - Independent Reseller of the Week: http://egolfinternational.com/wig)
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To: PISANO
It is ONLY a matter of time before we are HIT again and I for one do NOT believe it will be SMALLER than 911, but much larger and of course the only way that can happen, is by the use of WMD.

I believe (read "fear") you are correct. Sadly, on the two or three occasions that I have mentioned that we could be hit by a nuke (or nukes), most listeners have reacted as though the mere thought of that is heretical. What naivete.

16 posted on 04/18/2004 6:53:36 PM PDT by hauerf
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To: RocketJsqurl
The terror networks that we fight are Arab. They will use nukes on us if possible. The attack will be awful, but it will not destroy our capacity to strike back. Our government better have in place a clear policy to retaliate by laying waste to the Arab Middle East. That policy needs to be communicated to the appropriate actors. They need to know that they will loose everything, if Arab terror networks nuke us. Based on that logic, we are removing Hussein, so the Iraqi people have a chance to escape total destruction. It's up to them - if they want to sit back and let a minority of radicals lead their country into chaos, they risk total anniliation when the nuclear scenario happens.
17 posted on 04/18/2004 6:57:35 PM PDT by reed_inthe_wind (Vienna said the middlemen come from Ger, Nether,Belg, S Af, Jap,Dub, Mal,USA,Rus,Chin,and Pak.)
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To: hauerf; All
Sadly, on the two or three occasions that I have mentioned that we could be hit by a nuke (or nukes), most listeners have reacted as though the mere thought of that is heretical. What naivete.

Agree completely. It seems that if you mention the possibility, you are somehow provoking the act.

Shaking my head....

18 posted on 04/18/2004 7:02:37 PM PDT by Partisan Hack
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To: RightWhale
The Possibility of Converting "Mecca, Medina, Najaf, Teheran, & Qom" to Radioactive Glass should NEVER BE FAR from the Thoughts of the "Purveyors of Islam."

"Though" "Those of Us 'In the West'" wish to exist "In a Peaceful Harmony" with "Islam," LET THERE BE NO DOUBT that Furthur Abominations such as "9/11" MAY WELL RESULT IN a "THERMONUCLEAR RESPONSE."

In SHORT, on a "Worldwide Scale," the "Followers of Islam" HAVE NOT established ANY FORM of "Moral Supremacy" such that they can take ANY ACTION unapproved by Their Fellow Man.

"In the Judgement of 'The World,'" "Islam" has NO MORE MORAL AUTHORITY than ANY Other "Belief!!"

Massive Responses to "Islamic-Inspired Genocide or Murder, or Rape, or Torture," are NOT ONLY JUSTIFIED--They are MORALLY MANDATED!!

On the "World Stage," "Islam" is "On Trial." & SO FAR,--as a Philosophy of Life, & a set of Guidelines by which to live a Productive & Peaceful Life--"Islam" has "Shown Itself to Be" Mostly a "Conduit" through which Belief Systems Based on HATRED Manifest Themselves.

There is Little or NO evidence that a Human Civilization can be built upon Hatred. YET, "Modern Islam" seems to be SOLELY BASED upon that principle.

I Know the "Modern-Day Believers" in "Islam" will "Protest 'Islam's Innocence;'" yet, repeatedly, despite Gentle, Non-accusatory requests that "Formal Islam" RENOUNCE BIGOTRY, RACISM, VIOLENCE, SUICIDAL MARTYRDOM, FEMALE SLAVERY, there seems to be an "Undercurrent of Belief" in the more radical tenets of "Islam," including an OUTRIGHT DENIAL of the Right of "NoN-Islams" to Exist.

Such a "Belief System" CANNOT co-exist with ANY "Western Culture.

The "Impasse" WILL, eventually, result in a "Annihilation-Level Confrontation."

If we are REALLY LUCKY, "Islam" will fade into irrelevance.

If we are NOT SO LUCKY, we will be FORCED to VAPORIZE the Earthly Manifestations of "Islam."-----or Acquiesce to the "Rules of Islam."

"Islam" requires the DEATH of "Western Culture,"--& the loss of two centuries of scientific/cultural Discoveries/advances.

Dov

19 posted on 04/18/2004 7:18:16 PM PDT by Doc On The Bay
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To: templar
We can't make the same mistake in Saudi Arabia that we made in Iran in the late 70's. If Al Queda gets control of SA, we will be dealing with terrorist who will drop the "Oil Bomb" on us.
Our current policy with SA right now is correct IMHO
20 posted on 04/18/2004 7:21:40 PM PDT by RocketJsqurl
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