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I don't fear for them - they made a choice and we think its an unwise one. Time and the momentum of events will demonstrate that we are right.

Realize that we in our own nation are split fairly evenly as to what road to take in these dangerous times. Regardless of who is elected president, I have said all along that given the nature of the domestic opposition and their worldview, things must necessarily get worse before they get better.

Spain is on a similar cycle.

So what will it take? 30,000 dead in NYC rather than 3,000? Maybe 300,000? Realize that the foiled WMD plot that was reported widely today was ambitious enough to kill 20,000 and harm thousands more.

Clearly, enough Americans (and enough Spainiards) either do not or will not accept the gravity of the situation they are in. Things necessarily have to get worse before they get better to turn enough of that group around, and significantly marginalize the 'terminally out-of-touch' fringe (20%-33%?) enough that the wise, albeit violent, course of action is taken.

This is the same if Bush or Kerry is elected. It's bigger than who is President.

The question is, what will be the significant event that does this and tips the balance towards an even more proactive approach that will be needed? How many will die and how many will be harmed? How many cities will be effected? And how will the 'terminally out-of-touch' fringe react to being marginalized for decades or more?

Who knows?

You want to see your future? Look at what happened to Israel when they left Lebanon (like you, when you left Somalia) a few years ago, the suicide bombings started and hasn’t ended, and know they are trying to do what they should have done a few years ago (that is, eliminate the heads of the snakes, only now there are many snakes). The left/socialists (Hollywood drug addicted, sex addicted, divorce here, divorce there…) would rather see 3000 of their own Americans die and think that appeasement will work. Well it didn’t work for the Israelis, it won’ work for the Spaniards and if you vote for 'Hanoi John' Kerry, it won’t work for America. Long live a strong America.