[omega4412]

This worries me. One can BS Al Gore. One can BS the public using climate models. It is much harder to BS glaciers or permafrost or sea ice.

I wonder how they got the number of $100 million to move Shishmaref. It's certainly out in the boonies, in an area where everything comes in by air or on a few barges during the summer. But $100 million?

[spunkets]

"It is much harder to BS glaciers or permafrost or sea ice. "

These things have been melting and receding since the last ice age. These con artists are just after the idiot vote. Art Bell listener types.

[thackney]

Shishmaref residents vote to move their village

Web posted Monday, July 22, 2002

Residents of the island village of Shishmaref have voted overwhelmingly to move their community to escape the violent storms that have eroded huge chunks of shoreline.

Residents of the community about 600 miles northwest of Anchorage voted Friday. The unofficial count released by village officials Saturday was 161-20 in favor of moving.

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The U.S. Army Corps of Engineers in December released a study of what it would cost to move Kivalina, at the tip of a barrier reef north of Shishmaref. Moving Kivalina's 400 residents to a 100-acre gravel pad on the mainland would cost $102 million, the corps said.

U.S. Sen. Ted Stevens hoped emergency funds would help the eroding coastal communities, said spokeswoman Melanie Alvord. He has said he thinks global climate change is largely to blame for villages being overtaken by the sea.

"Unfortunately there's no federal program for relocating villages," Alvord said.

In Shishmaref, the Native corporation, village council and city government have formed a relocation coalition. Nayokpuk said residents are leaning toward a barge-accessible spot known as West Nunatak on the mainland about seven miles southwest.

[dufekin]

The Pacific Decadal Oscillation flipped from negative mode to positive mode in 1977-1978. This is a multidecadal oscillation (i.e., its period is roughly 70 years...we think). The oscillation may have been damped by some other factor during its last few positive phases; data are sparse. There's been some dendrochronology done on this, but I have not had the opportunity to assess the quality of that data. In general, reliable observations of temperatures (from the same station for 30 years, reporting daily 90% of the time) are sparse, so it isn't easy to do a historical assessment. I will try at some time or another.