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Gorelick's Commission Counterpart
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| 4/16/04
| conservatism_IS_compassion
Posted on 04/16/2004 10:03:54 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion
Out of the corner of my ear I heard mention made of someone who was EXCLUDED from the September 11 Coverup Commission. When I heard it my ears perked up, but I had missed it. But I do seem to recall that someone was initially named to the commission but were rejected by journalism as being in the pocket of the Bush Administration.
The actual Commission, of course, is constructed to cover the rear end of everyone NOT in the Bush Administration. Just as "objective journalism" is.
TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 911; 911commission; coverup; gorelick; whitewash
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To: Freedom4US
The Republican members of the commission, it seems, are:
To: conservatism_IS_compassion
Who was that person? Anyone remember?
Gorelick's counterpart in that administration? Hmmm... Clintonlick?
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posted on
04/16/2004 12:34:39 PM PDT
by
broadsword
(The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for Democrats to get elected.)
To: CFC__VRWC
Tommy Daschel did NOT scour the rats' records, though... As usual, it only applies to Rs. (And R's allow it almost everytime! :(
To: Libertina
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posted on
04/16/2004 1:00:44 PM PDT
by
kcvl
To: conservatism_IS_compassion
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posted on
04/16/2004 1:10:21 PM PDT
by
kcvl
To: broadsword
You need to read this....This was written in the winter of 1998....
Catastrophic Terrorism: Elements of a National Policy
By
Ashton B. Carter,
John M. Deutch
and
Philip D. Zelikow
http://www.ksg.harvard.edu/visions/publication/terrorism.htm
Gorelick is a "contributor" as well as a WHOLE host of Clintoon cronies this article and others listed LEADS right to the "selling of technology to the Chinese...
OHHHHHHHH if you notice of the three names listed as the "writers"...
Philip Zelikow is the executive director of the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States, better known as the "9/11 Commission."
We all know who Deutch is and read up on Carter...
Here is the "list" of the "others" for contributions...
The authors would like to thank the members of the Catastrophic Terrorism Study Group:
- Graham T. Allison, Jr.
- Zoe Baird (remember HER????)
- Vic DeMarines
- Robert Gates ((This excerpt written in June 1998 ---"However, the new CIA director will be wise if he realizes from the start the dangers in relying on the advice of senior CIA office managers who during the past 12 years advanced and prospered in their careers precisely because they had no qualms about suppressing intelligence or slanting analysis to suit the interest of [CIA director William J.] Casey and [his deputy Robert] Gates. This is a deep systemic problem.")
- Jamie Gorelick
- Robert Hermann (( FROM WHITE HOUSE REPORT, dated THURSDAY, FEBRUARY 2 (02/02/95) CLINTON NAMES INTELLIGENCE COMMISSION MEMBERS - President Clinton named Les Aspin to head the Commission on the Roles and Capabilities of the United States Intelligence Community and former Senator Warren Rudman as co-chairman. Aspin, the former congressman and former defense secretary, is chairman of the Foreign Intelligence Advisory Board. In a written statement, Clinton said intelligence gathering and analysis "remains a critical element of our national power and influence," and he called for a renewal of bipartisan support for intelligence operations. Clinton also named to the commission Zoe Baird, Ann Caracristi, Stephen Friedman, Anthony Harrington, Robert Hermann, former ambassador Paul Wolfowitz, and retired General Lew Allen. Congress selected former Congressman Tony Coelho, David Dewhurst, Congressmen Norman Dicks and Porter Goss, Senators James Exon and John Warner, former Senator Wyche Fowler, and retired Lieutenant General Robert Pursley.)
- Philip Heyman ((On July 17, 1993 Foster was found dead in Washington's Fort Marcy Park and had apparently committed suicide. On the same day in Little Rock, the FBI had obtained a warrant to search the office of David Hale as part of its investigation of Capital Management Services, the company through which Hale had loaned Susan McDougal $300,000 at the request of James McDougal and then-governor Clinton.
Following the discovery of Foster's body, White House Counsel Bernard Nussbaum initially promised Deputy Attorney General Philip Heymann and Justice Department investigators full access to the files in Foster's office. However, the First Lady insisted investigators be denied "unfettered access" to Foster's files. After talking to one of Hillary Clinton's closest advisers, Susan Thomases, Nussbaum reversed himself, reneged on his promise to the Justice Department, and began to impede the investigation.)
- Fred Ikle
- Elaine Kamarck ((Elaine C. Kamarck is a Lecturer in Public Policy who came to the Kennedy School in 1997 after a career in politics and government. In the 1980s, she was one of the founders of the New Democrat movement, which helped elect Bill Clinton president. Prior to joining the Harvard faculty, Dr. Kamarck served as Senior Policy Advisor to the Vice President of the United States, Al Gore. She joined the Clinton/Gore Administration in March of 1993 and, working directly with Vice President Gore, created the National Performance Review, a new White House policy council designed to reinvent government.) GREAT job THEY did! HA!!! )
- Ernest May
- Matthew Meselson ((Perhaps the most prominent of these now-discredited scientists was Harvard University's Matthew Meselson. For more on Meselson's role in the deluding of Americans about Russian biological weapons programs (among other arms control violations), see Guess Who Else Is Cooking Up Biological Weapons? Russia (No. 98-D 35, 25 February 1998) and 'No More Lies' Monitor: C.P.S.U. Trial Offers Yeltsin Opportunity to Honor Commitment to New Transparency (No. 92-D 77, 10 July 1992).
- Joseph S. Nye, Jr. ((Assistant Secretary of Defense for the Clinton Administration) Go here and read here is an excerpt from a June 1998 article
The President's charm and persuasion seem to play domestically, but they surely don't translate into effective foreign policy. One of the architects of Clinton's China policy, former Assistant Secretary of Defense Joseph Nye, has dubbed the persuasive powers of our nation as "Soft Power". Our lifestyle, culture and values, combined with the technology to spread them (television, internet, etc.), should be force enough to win over our enemies in the long run. If we can simply engage them at the table and in the marketplace, they will surely see it our way.)
- William J. Perry (In 1994, then-deputy defense secretary Perry used his personal influence to ram through the sale of encrypted military communications gear to the Chinese military, a deal brokered by John L. Lewis, Perry's colleague and crony at Stanford University.?
- Larry Potts ((Despite the fact that Freeh's pal Larry A. Potts was immersed in controversy for mishandling the standoff at Ruby Ridge, where an FBI agent killed an unarmed woman, Freeh promoted Potts to deputy FBI director. When Eugene F. Glenn, head of the FBI's field office in Salt Lake City, complained that the bureau's inquiry into the Ruby Ridge case amounted to a coverup, Freeh's general counsel, Howard M. Shapiro, responded that to raise such charges was "absolutely irresponsible and destructive to the FBI." That was the mentality that pervaded the bureau under J. Edgar Hoover.FBI Director Louis Freeh Should Find Another Job ....Feb.28.2001 Fire Freeh By Ronald Kessler Page A23 Washington Post )
- Fred Schauer
- J. Terry Scott
- Jack Sheehan
- Malcom Sparrow
- Herbert Winokur ((Since the late 1990s, Herbert Winokur has been on the Board of Directors of the Harvard Endowment Fund. Harvard, the alma mater of George W. Bush, has long been connected to Republicans and the agenda of the Bush family. In 2000, Enron, through Winokur, convinced Harvard professors to write studies promoting the privatization of government agencies and deregulating energy --- agendas that obviously benefit Enron and DynCorp. Based on these Harvard "studies", Enron subsequently won major contracts, which remain on the books today. Harvard also benefited from the shorting of Enron stock in the fall of 2001, suggesting that insider trading had occurred. (For more detail on Harvard and Winokur, go to www.harvardwatch.org.)
- Robert Zoellick ((President and CEO,Center for Strategic & International Studies - Just read this link
you will see he was waving the RED FLAG wayyyyy back in Feb 1999. http://www.csis.org/hill/ts990224.html
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posted on
04/16/2004 1:21:58 PM PDT
by
antivenom
("Never argue with an idiot, he'll bring you down to his level - then beat you with experience.")
To: conservatism_IS_compassion
talk radio is going to destroy the commission.The Clintons will be happy with that, since the report was going to be critical of them.
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posted on
04/16/2004 2:03:29 PM PDT
by
expatpat
To: antivenom
What a list of Washington insiders. Corrupt all!
Too bad that Ron Brown had sold out all the seats on his flying trade mission. He missed a few potential passengers!
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posted on
04/16/2004 2:44:34 PM PDT
by
aShepard
To: kcvl
I've been rying to assist her ;)
To: conservatism_IS_compassion
Does anyone know by whom and how commission members were appointed?
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posted on
04/16/2004 2:52:52 PM PDT
by
ontos-on
To: antivenom
Kristen Breitweiser, a 9/11 widow, insists Zelikow has a "clear conflict of interest." And she suspects he is in touch with Bush's political adviser, Rove, which she says would explain why the White House granted him, along with just one other commission official, the greatest access to the intelligence briefing Bush got a month before the 9/11 suicide hijackings.
The two-page memo in question mentions "al-Qaida" and "hijackings," that much we know. What we don't know is if it gets any more specific about the threat. And the White House won't let us find out. It refuses to declassify any of the August memo (or any of the other briefings Bush got before 9/11, for that matter), and it won't even let most commissioners review it.
snip
9/11 relatives like the wife of the late Ronald Breitweiser want to know they are getting an honest investigation into what their government did to protect their loved ones from a foreign-ordered attack on American soil.
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posted on
04/16/2004 3:00:50 PM PDT
by
kcvl
To: antivenom
You need to read this....This was written in the winter of 1998.... Bigtime *BUMP* to that advice. Great link. A tidbit to whet the reader's appetite ...
Readers should imagine the possibilities for themselves, because the most serious constraint on current policy is lack of imagination. An act of catastrophic terrorism that killed thousands or tens of thousands of people and/or disrupted the necessities of life for hundreds of thousands, or even millions, would be a watershed event in America's history. It could involve loss of life and property unprecedented for peacetime and undermine Americans' fundamental sense of security within their own borders in a manner akin to the 1949 Soviet atomic bomb test, or perhaps even worse. Constitutional liberties would be challenged as the United States sought to protect itself from further attacks by pressing against allowable limits in surveillance of citizens, detention of suspects, and the use of deadly force. More violence would follow, either as other terrorists seek to imitate this great "success" or as the United States strikes out at those considered responsible. Like Pearl Harbor, such an event would divide our past and future into a "before" and "after." The effort and resources we devote to averting or containing this threat now, in the "before" period, will seem woeful, even pathetic, when compared to what will happen "after." Our leaders will be judged negligent for not addressing catastrophic terrorism more urgently.
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posted on
04/16/2004 3:02:12 PM PDT
by
Cboldt
To: kcvl
BUMP
To: expatpat
talk radio is going to destroy the commission.
The Clintons will be happy with that, since the report was going to be critical of them.
It was always inevitable that the Clintons get some of the blame for 911; in truth they deserve it
all for not getting ben Laden before the end of 2000.
The existence of the Gorelick Commission didn't change the fact that the Clinton Administration had to get some blame - but when you deserve all of it and you are able to deflect half of it to your opponent, you dance in the streets. And that is what the Gorelick Commission is designed to do, and was doing - until Ashcroft torpedoed the commission amidships.
Now the issue is no longer "What did Bush know, and when did he know it?" Now the issue is, "What part of the government's failure to effectively respond to the series of antiamerican Islamic terrorist acts which lead up to 9/11 does not have Jamie Gorelick's fingerprints on it?" And in reply to Kean's "stay out of our business," the issue is "What kind of dork is it who thinks the prime suspect in the case should be the investigator of the case?"
Even more pointedly the question must be, "Even if you put the prime suspect in the witness chair instead of the commission bench, how does the commission question her if all the remaining commissioners, especially their chairman, are on record as rejecting the idea of investigating her?" It appears that the commission is hopelessly compromised. It should disband.
To: Cboldt
STOP and think....we have been hearing about suitcase NUKES...ohhh for how many years? We all know that the Pope doesn't have them and neither does the US...for if we did we wouldn't fear them. SO let us just imagine just WHO would be able to buy such a commodity and has the intent to use one?
Let's get real...the US knows and has really been gearing up for a nuke attack...not a missle attack with stolen airplanes.
GET ready the US knows that the WMD are about to surface...I suspect we will see the "first appearance" in Saudi Arabia...the US is getting our folks out...Bin Laden is revving up the hate speech...I really have this gut feeling things are about to ignite in Saudi Arabia (possibly Falluija) who knows...but someone has an itchy trigger finger sitting on some ignored WMD and I think the sh*t is about to hit the fan...TOO MANY people, administrations, countries, leaders, ETC have "KNOWN" that the threat of WMD in Iraq is and has been a real threat...I really have this stinking suspicion that we will find out "where they are" very soon...
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posted on
04/16/2004 6:15:28 PM PDT
by
antivenom
("Never argue with an idiot, he'll bring you down to his level - then beat you with experience.")
To: conservatism_IS_compassion
All of the "sticky areas" that the Clinton's were being investigated on...had to be stopped...so they had the "wall" put in place.
It is a "drag" to have Whitewater, Travelgate and Vince Foster's death all in the limelight and being actively investigated and reported upon...can't have all the "different investigating authorities "talking to one another" now...can ya???
I found it interesting that the 911 commission is nothing more than a well orchestrated panel to "clear the way" for Hillary in 2008.
Hillary knows these issues will resurface if the BLAME isn't immediately and permanently cast and not associated with the "Clinton (still struggling) Legacy".
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posted on
04/16/2004 6:23:31 PM PDT
by
antivenom
("Never argue with an idiot, he'll bring you down to his level - then beat you with experience.")
To: Freedom4US
BUMP & PING
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