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Jorge - I've heard this crap from the Specter camp, and them only. It's simply not true. You tell me why Toomey is not electable statewide.

"This crap" as you call it, hasn't ONLY come from the Specter camp..but from the PA GOP, and indirectly through endorsements from Bush and Santorum.

Specter is the incumbent, votes with the president most of the time, has seniority and name recognition and is most likely to beat Democratic candidate Joe Hoeffel in November.

PA is a very evenly divided state, which tends to be more liberal in highly populated areas, and cities like Philly. Specter has a track record of beating Dems in PA.

Ok...but I live here (literally in PA and figuratively here at FR)...and I didn't post my thoughts on Toomey's chances against the Dem because I COULD'NT REMEMBER HIS NAME!!! And I follow politics in PA and he is a no-namer to me. Joe Hoeffel?

Specter is the incumbent, votes with the president most of the time, has seniority and name recognition and is most likely to beat Democratic candidate Joe Hoeffel in November.

PA is a very evenly divided state, which tends to be more liberal in highly populated areas, and cities like Philly. Specter has a track record of beating Dems in PA.

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Well, let's examine this statement:

1) If Rick Santorum can win statewide - twice - Toomey can win statewide.

2) If Toomey can win his 'Rat-majority district three times - each by a wider margin than the previous one - Toomey can win statewide. The same district which voted for both Gore and Rendell.

3) If the voters of PA are going to elect Awful Joe Hoeffel simply because he has a "D" after his name, how does that explain our current Pubbie stranglehold on the Senate seats? I repeat - Hoeffel has less name recognition and less money than Toomey. Plus, they are both Eastern PA, giving Toomey a good layout for the general (Toomey wins the T and West, landslide in Lehigh Valley, and holds his own in Philly).

4) If Specter eeks this out and PA conservatives stay home in November, not only does Specter lose to Hoeffel, but Bush is in danger of losing to Ketchup-boy, thus Toomey is the stronger bet for Bush statewide.

P.S. I want you to show me a quote or a link from someone in the PA GOP hierarchy stating that Toomey isn't electable statewide. It doesn't exist, because you know full well they have to accept the possibility that they will all be in Toomey's corner on 4/28.

See post #64 for the most logical reason for Bush/Santorum support of Snarlen' Arlen.