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Santorum's Shame
National Review Online | 4/15/04 | Stephen Moore

Posted on 04/15/2004 5:30:21 PM PDT by Ogie Oglethorpe

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To: fatima; PennsylvaniaMom
I will be doing exactly that on election day.
121 posted on 04/15/2004 10:25:22 PM PDT by Badray (Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown. RIP harpseal.)
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To: wingster
wingster,Are you from Pa?He has not his soul,shame on you.
122 posted on 04/15/2004 10:26:37 PM PDT by fatima (My Granddaughter Karen is Home-WOOHOO We unite with all our troops and send our love-)
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To: TOUGH STOUGH
Thanks for your support for Toomey.
123 posted on 04/15/2004 10:27:42 PM PDT by Badray (Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown. RIP harpseal.)
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To: fatima
I'm sorry. I don't understand your question. Can you rephrase it.

I know that Santorum is the most conservative currently and I think that he wants it to stay that way.

I don't think that I know Steve Friend. Did he once challenge Specter?
124 posted on 04/15/2004 10:30:36 PM PDT by Badray (Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown. RIP harpseal.)
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To: Badray
120 some posts, and not one person has yet to say they are happy to support Specter (because he is the incumbent, usually votes with the President, yada yada, yaday)...

Disappointed that the Pres. is making the trip for Arlen...GWB will be in the right church on Monday, but in the wrong pew...

125 posted on 04/15/2004 10:32:59 PM PDT by PennsylvaniaMom (FreeMartha)
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To: Badray
I'm voting for Toomey and every conservative I know is also voting for Toomey. While I'm disappointed Santorum is backing Specter I understand why he's doing it. Santorum is really in a very tough spot and I garantee he's getting ulcers over this primary. I'm not sure if there are enough conservative Republicans in PA to beat Specter but if Toomey wins he CAN win in November. Specter himself has not won by very big margins and I bet he gets less than 55% against Hoeffel.
126 posted on 04/15/2004 10:37:13 PM PDT by EdoTerglav
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To: Badray
Steve was a friend of life,we watched on live TV,resaerch.
127 posted on 04/15/2004 10:42:09 PM PDT by fatima (My Granddaughter Karen is Home-WOOHOO We unite with all our troops and send our love-)
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To: Badray
Regarding #119

Goodpoint. But still... Joe Hoeffel....I've got some thinkin' to do.

128 posted on 04/15/2004 11:02:40 PM PDT by TOUGH STOUGH (A vote for president Bush IS a vote for principle.)
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To: Ogie Oglethorpe
Specter freely admits that he shares the ideology of Jim Jeffords.

Why don't you just slap us and spit in our faces Arlen?...So you consider yourself an ideological back-stabber?

129 posted on 04/16/2004 12:11:03 AM PDT by Outraged
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To: PennsylvaniaMom
You're right. Of course, on this site, we are the extreme right kooks that would want Toomey. ;-)

Well, most of us anyway.
130 posted on 04/16/2004 1:32:45 AM PDT by Badray (Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown. RIP harpseal.)
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To: EdoTerglav
That's great news for Toomey. Now go out and convert some more people into conservatives. ;-)

I guess that I just don't see the dilemma for Santorum. Specter effectively cancels out Santorum's votes and our issues do not get advanced. Senator Toomey would mean 2 votes on those same issues. Seems easy enough to me if principle means anything.

Were it my job (instead of Rick's) I'd quit or be forced out but I would refuse to back Specter. I'd think that would assure compliance quicker than rewarding someone that opposes you with your support.
131 posted on 04/16/2004 1:39:52 AM PDT by Badray (Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown. RIP harpseal.)
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To: TOUGH STOUGH
I know that is distasteful. But consider that a first term dem (or pubbie) doesn't have much clout (except Hillary, that is) and wouldn't be chairing anything.

Then think about Specter with no reason to do anything right. Even if he lives to 80 to finish his term (with his health, can you imagine him running for another term?) he will be unaccountable to everyone except to the Dems and the ideology that he has embraced his entire career.

The only time that he has done anything 'conservative' was when it was beneficial to Arlen Specter. Hell, when did he ever do anything that wasn't beneficial to Arlen Specter?
132 posted on 04/16/2004 1:51:13 AM PDT by Badray (Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown. RIP harpseal.)
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To: Ogie Oglethorpe
Hey, Arlen is a 'made' member of Congress, Rick's just kissing Arlen's , uh, ring.
133 posted on 04/16/2004 2:01:15 AM PDT by csvset
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To: jwalsh07
"Specter got him votes in the Philly suburbs which put him over the top. He owes him and he's paying the debt."

Just wondering if your philosophy of repaying personal political debts extends to this forum?

Would you undermine or seek to destroy someone on this forum to repay a political debt?

If so (and because some of your other posts have been red flags as well)Jwalsh07 is a person who cannot be trusted.

134 posted on 04/16/2004 5:01:48 AM PDT by TOUGH STOUGH (A vote for president Bush IS a vote for principle.)
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To: TOUGH STOUGH; Torie
If so (and because some of your other posts have been red flags as well)Jwalsh07 is a person who cannot be trusted.

LOL.

135 posted on 04/16/2004 6:00:33 AM PDT by jwalsh07 (REMEMBER FABRIZIO!)
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To: Badray
Snarlin' Arlen is in Pittsburgh today (campaigning w/Kerry at Pitt no doubt--maybe Bon Jovi has a Scottish music repatoire) and I just heard he will be in studio, on Mike Pintak's talk show on KDKA sometime this morning.

Can't wait to here this...TOOMEY BETTER GET EQUAL TIME!!!!!

136 posted on 04/16/2004 6:24:20 AM PDT by PennsylvaniaMom (FreeMartha)
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To: Ogie Oglethorpe
Everyone is allowed one mistake
137 posted on 04/16/2004 6:29:32 AM PDT by freeangel (freeangel)
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To: PennsylvaniaMom
I will email Mike and remind him of that.
138 posted on 04/16/2004 8:07:35 AM PDT by Badray (Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown. RIP harpseal.)
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To: jwalsh07
LOL is hardly an answer to my two questions.

You couldn't answer them yourself, you had to flag for a reinforcement(s)?

I'm still waiting....

139 posted on 04/16/2004 1:08:58 PM PDT by TOUGH STOUGH (A vote for president Bush IS a vote for principle.)
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To: Badray
I stand by my original opinion and I think that tactic is extremely destructive.

140 posted on 04/16/2004 1:29:13 PM PDT by Tamzee (9 out of 10 terrorists recommend John Kerry... the tenth still clings to Dean.)
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