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Minister Landau - Media Should Read The English Texts (important)
IMRA ^ | 15 April 2004

Posted on 04/15/2004 11:37:23 AM PDT by yonif

Speaking in a live interview on Israel Radio this morning, Minister Uzi Landau noted that President Bush's statements have no standing as a permanent American commitment. Landau listed a series of previous American presidential commitments that have not been honored - including a promised ban on the deployment of American made Saudi F-15s in Tabuk near Eilat.

President Bush made a veiled reference to the limits that there are to his statements during the press conference last night when he remarked that "when you have a government where the person is bigger than the institutions, that government will inevitably fail. It's when the institutions are bigger than the people that you're able to have continuity and people's hopes and aspirations realized, and peace". In America the institutions are bigger than the people - presidential commitments only have a binding status under the U.S. Constitution if they are approved by a two-thirds majority of the Senate.

Landau pointed out that the Bush letter made no reference to Israel's 14 points about the roadmap thus leaving the roadmap with its fatal flaws (under the roadmap the Quartet decides if a Palestinian state should be formed in evacuated areas based on what it considers the relative performance of the Palestinians as compared to the Israeli performance - the Palestinians are not actually required to successfully complete any security-related operations. The state is formed without requiring either Israeli consent or Israeli-Palestinian negotiations. The Bush statements also did not explicitly link the Phase II Palestinian state to the successful completion of security operations - thus essentially rendering meaningless his statement regarding Israeli control of movement between Gaza and the outside world as [even while Bush remains president and opts to honor his words] it only holds until a Phase II Palestinian state ).

Landau said that it is important to read the actual text of the letter in English. Reading from the text of the Bush letter ("It seems clear that an agreed, just, fair, and realistic framework for a solution to the Palestinian refugee issue as part of any final status agreement will need to be found through the establishment of a Palestinian state, and the settling of Palestinian refugees there, rather than in Israel.") Landau complained that the sentence was being mistranslated in Hebrew reports to read "and not in Israel" when the statement reads only "rather than in Israel".

It should be noted that while the media is presenting the Bush letter as some kind of commitment regarding the final status of the settlement blocs that Bush, who was careful to say in the press conference that "[T]he United States will not prejudice the outcome of final status negotiations. That matter is for the parties," in no way indicated that what would happen with the blocs except to predict in his letter that they will have a value at the negotiating table :

"[I]n light of new realities on the ground, including already existing major Israeli populations centers, it is unrealistic to expect that the outcome of final status negotiations will be a full and complete return to the armistice lines of 1949, and all previous efforts to negotiate a two-state solution have reached the same conclusion. It is realistic to expect that any final status agreement will only be achieved on the basis of mutually agreed changes that reflect these realities."

Mr. Bush may consider it "realistic", for example, for the existence of the major Israeli population centers to be such a significant negotiating card that Israel can trade them for the French Hill and Ramat Eshkol neighborhoods in Jerusalem - occupied territory in American eyes.

As for the situation in evacuated Gaza, President Bush sees building up the "capacity and will of Palestinian institutions to fight terrorism"."working together with Jordan, Egypt, and others in the international community." The caveat "will", in particular within the context of Egyptian efforts, refers to plans to co-opt the terrorists by recruiting them into the Palestinian security forces. The presence of "Jordan, Egypt, and others in the international community" on the ground will provide the Palestinians with a formidable human shield to protect them from Israeli security operations.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Israel; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bush; israel; landau; usa; waronterrorism

1 posted on 04/15/2004 11:37:26 AM PDT by yonif
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To: SJackson; Yehuda; Nachum; Paved Paradise; Thinkin' Gal; Bobby777; adam_az; Alouette; IFly4Him; ...
Ping.
2 posted on 04/15/2004 11:37:46 AM PDT by yonif ("If I Forget Thee, O Jerusalem, Let My Right Hand Wither" - Psalms 137:5)
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US language concerning the Arab refugees was vauge too. Landau on the radio right now says that Bush used language which gave preference that the Arabs would be settled in the new "Palestine" rather than in Israel. He did not rule out the "right of return" and even after being asked by the Israeli press about that, he didn't say that either. So it is a folly to say it was said.
3 posted on 04/15/2004 11:42:54 AM PDT by yonif ("If I Forget Thee, O Jerusalem, Let My Right Hand Wither" - Psalms 137:5)
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To: yonif
I wouldn't lose much sleep over it. Sharon presented a disengagement plan and the US didn't disagree for the first time in nearly 50 years. GWB can't commit the palestinians to anything, and it's all down the toilet with a Kerry Presidency, anyway. There are other problems to worry about, like the millions of palestinians that still want to kill Jews.
4 posted on 04/15/2004 11:53:42 AM PDT by SJackson (America...thru dissent and protest lost the ability to mobilize a will to win, Col Bui Tin, PAVN)
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To: SJackson
Of course the US didn't disagree with it. The US sees it as a step in the roadmap.
5 posted on 04/15/2004 11:57:19 AM PDT by yonif ("If I Forget Thee, O Jerusalem, Let My Right Hand Wither" - Psalms 137:5)
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To: yonif
Landau complained that the sentence was being mistranslated in Hebrew reports to read "and not in Israel" when the statement reads only "rather than in Israel".

It makes you wonder how the Bush letter reads in arabic.

6 posted on 04/15/2004 12:04:57 PM PDT by mac_truck (Aide toi et dieu l’aidera)
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To: yonif
Minister Landau opposes the withdrawl, which is fine. This isn't a legal, binding document in any way, it's a statement of views for public consumption. Everyone knows that, for Landau to parse words is silly. It's as clear what the establishment of a Palestinian state and the settling of Palestinian refugees there rather than Israel means as it is that this meeting binds neither the US nor Israel to anything. It is finally a public admission that the palestinians aren't going back to Israel, and that Israel isn't abandoning all the settlements in the West Bank, something most everyone knew, but even the US woldn't say for fear of offending our Arab friends. It allows the Arabs to confront reality.
7 posted on 04/15/2004 12:47:26 PM PDT by SJackson (America...thru dissent and protest lost the ability to mobilize a will to win, Col Bui Tin, PAVN)
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To: SJackson
That may be true, however, refugees returning to this new "Palestine" will also be a disaster to Israel.
8 posted on 04/15/2004 12:49:28 PM PDT by yonif ("If I Forget Thee, O Jerusalem, Let My Right Hand Wither" - Psalms 137:5)
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To: yonif
That may be true, however, refugees returning to this new "Palestine" will also be a disaster to Israel.

They won't be returning anywhere anytime soon. They'll be kept in camps in Syria, Jordan and Lebanon (where they really should be resettled) to use as pawns, as they have been, and to support UNWEA, which is out of business without the palestinians, their best long term clients.

9 posted on 04/15/2004 12:53:45 PM PDT by SJackson (America...thru dissent and protest lost the ability to mobilize a will to win, Col Bui Tin, PAVN)
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marker bump
10 posted on 04/15/2004 12:54:53 PM PDT by GretchenEE (Want to see more US soldiers stay alive? Drench them in prayer!)
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To: SJackson
I have a feeling they will all be sent there to aid in the resistance. There is also another reason that raised by an Israeli Knesset member. I am going to post the article shortly.
11 posted on 04/15/2004 12:56:00 PM PDT by yonif ("If I Forget Thee, O Jerusalem, Let My Right Hand Wither" - Psalms 137:5)
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To: yonif
I agree. The assurances are not binding. Colon Bowell is right now busy at work undermining them. There are a lot of good reasons why Israel should not retreat from Gaza. I have not heard one answer as to why a concession to Palestinian nazis in the form of terrorist would stifle their blood-lust for killing Jews.
12 posted on 04/15/2004 5:42:20 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop
sorry. terrorist = territorial concessions
13 posted on 04/15/2004 5:43:25 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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