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Fatal plane crash mystery
Mobile Register ^ | 04/14/04 | joe danborn

Posted on 04/15/2004 1:30:45 AM PDT by My Dog Likes Me

Federal investigators have determined that a single-engine delivery plane that crashed into Big Bateau Bay on Oct. 23, 2002, slammed into something 3,000 feet above the Mobile-Tensaw Delta moments earlier - they're just not sure what it was.

The highly unusual NTSB account points to unidentified red marks on the severely damaged nose and front belly of the plane as evidence that it hit another object in the air...

(Excerpt) Read more at al.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: Alabama
KEYWORDS: airplanecrash; aviation; callingartbell; mystery; narcap; ntsb; planecrash; ufo; xfiles
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To: My Dog Likes Me
"I think I saw a TV program years back, where drug dealers get really close to large aircraft in order to mask themselves on air traffic control radar"

I may be incorrect, but I thought air traffic control was dependent on an active trasnsponder an a plane. If the transponder is turned off the plane doesn't show up on their radar.
81 posted on 05/10/2004 3:53:51 AM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: flys4grins
There's a tethered radar blimp at Morgan City, La.

Is that near the crash site?

82 posted on 05/10/2004 3:56:24 AM PDT by snopercod (I used to be disgusted. Then I became amused. Now I'm disgusted again.)
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To: Rebelbase
Depending on how the gain is set, there should always be a primary (no xponder) target.
83 posted on 05/10/2004 3:56:29 AM PDT by leadpenny
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To: flys4grins
Just browsing, eh? You found this month-old thread, post a couple of times and leave. The fact that you just signed on FR makes me suspicious.
84 posted on 05/10/2004 4:00:19 AM PDT by leadpenny
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To: leadpenny
What I also find suspect is the pilot. I found no record of him either. It may exist but found no record of pilot license, drivers license or a death record.
85 posted on 05/10/2004 4:21:24 AM PDT by eastforker (The color of justice is green,just ask Johny Cochran!)
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To: eastforker
Curiouser and curiouser. I didn't know you could find that on the web. Would the death certificate be in the jurisdiction where the plane crashed.
86 posted on 05/10/2004 4:35:35 AM PDT by leadpenny
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To: leadpenny
SSA has a record of all deaths in US if you have a SSAN.
87 posted on 05/10/2004 4:43:33 AM PDT by eastforker (The color of justice is green,just ask Johny Cochran!)
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To: eastforker
Something strange going on. I see Tedster is gone and now we have fly4grins. Someone jerking chains? The crash obviously happened but we're getting more questions than answers now.
88 posted on 05/10/2004 4:49:40 AM PDT by leadpenny
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To: eastforker
SSA has a record of all deaths in US if you have a SSAN.

Is this publicly accessible, and if so, how?

89 posted on 05/10/2004 4:58:33 AM PDT by nepdap
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To: eastforker
I don't think Tom had a nickname....at the time, I worked at Downtown Air Center, where he purchased fuel every night.
He always signed "Tom J Preziose."
90 posted on 05/10/2004 11:10:11 AM PDT by flys4grins
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To: snopercod
Morgan City's about 5 hours away.....
91 posted on 05/10/2004 11:11:59 AM PDT by flys4grins
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To: leadpenny
I think JAX Center takes control around Monroeville, AL, which is about 60 miles NE of Mobile.
92 posted on 05/10/2004 11:14:27 AM PDT by flys4grins
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To: leadpenny
Sorry, didn't mean to leave... was at work this morning
when I found this sight. I'm sorry if I seem suspicious, but I want to find out what happened as much as everyone else....I fly around Mobile everyday, and I don't want whatever happened to him to happen to me!
93 posted on 05/10/2004 11:18:19 AM PDT by flys4grins
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To: My Dog Likes Me
CNN was down this week doing a story on the crash, and they flew out to scene with another pilot to take pictures.
I think they also interviewed the crash pilot's sister, and some other things. I'm not sure when they are going to air the segment.
94 posted on 05/10/2004 11:25:04 AM PDT by flys4grins
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To: leadpenny
Sorry....don't know who Tedster is....
95 posted on 05/10/2004 11:27:55 AM PDT by flys4grins
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To: flys4grins
So much for that theory...
96 posted on 05/10/2004 12:36:53 PM PDT by snopercod (I used to be disgusted. Then I became amused. Now I'm disgusted again.)
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To: flys4grins; eastforker
Sorry about that. I've been wrong more than once in assuming someone's credibility. Tedster seemed fine. Don't know what happened to him. May have registered under false pretenses, ie. previously banned. Again, welcome to FR.

This accident is an absolute mystery. Did you see the posts by eastforker ref the death cert. and pilot's license, etc.?

97 posted on 05/10/2004 2:08:13 PM PDT by leadpenny
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To: flys4grins; leadpenny
Please tell me this sister has a name and if at all possible an address or some other tidbit of info you have on her or this pilot. There are alot of questions unanswered, thanks.
98 posted on 05/10/2004 2:19:16 PM PDT by eastforker (The color of justice is green,just ask Johny Cochran!)
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To: leadpenny
The wreckage was found just 7.7 miles from the airport. NTSB report says the pilot was in voice contact with Mobile ATCT Approach Control East Radar. "The only radar data available was a "snap shot" taken from the equipment at Mobile Regional Departure Control and NTAP data from Atlanta Center." He was only in the air for a few minutes.

JAX didn't seem to figure into the NTSB report.


99 posted on 05/10/2004 8:49:57 PM PDT by My Dog Likes Me
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To: flys4grins
Thanks for the CNN information. I'll keep my eyes peeled.

100 posted on 05/10/2004 8:51:38 PM PDT by My Dog Likes Me
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