Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

How likely is human extinction?
Mail & Guardian Online ^ | Tuesday, April 13, 2004 | Kate Ravilious

Posted on 04/14/2004 6:15:04 AM PDT by Momaw Nadon

click here to read article


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 41-6061-8081-100 ... 501-520 next last
To: Riley
the Yellowstone supervolcano

I blame the Americans & Booosh.
61 posted on 04/14/2004 9:50:40 AM PDT by johnb838 ("I really don't care; they're all gonna die," Lance Cpl. Ryan Christensen)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 24 | View Replies]

To: Momaw Nadon
I'm already extinct. One look at the mirror this morning convinced me.

One thing about an overreliance on natural selection to extrapolate the future of H. sapiens - we cheat. We change the environment, not the other way around, and we change ourselves too, both behaviorally (culture is, actually, an evolutionary ploy) and physically, from artificial limbs to genetic therapeutics. H. sapiens may at some point be as extince as H. neanderthalensis but humans may just go rolling right along.

62 posted on 04/14/2004 9:55:39 AM PDT by Billthedrill ("I really don't care; they're all gonna die," - Lance Cpl. Ryan Christiansen)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Billthedrill
"extince" = "extinct." Clearly poor spelling is one sign the species is doomed.
63 posted on 04/14/2004 9:57:33 AM PDT by Billthedrill
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 62 | View Replies]

To: Ichneumon
{reply to post 47 }
Do you think "in His image" related to physical appearance?
Is "image" an exact translation or synomatic?
It could be related to intelligence. When the fruit was tasted "Now he is as We, for now he knows the difference between right and wrong [ablility to sit in judgement?]
Which is why we were prevented from tasting from the tree of immortality, then we would be His equal.
I don't think He would be as shallow as comment to compare us in how we looked.
64 posted on 04/14/2004 10:13:44 AM PDT by olde north church (Free Occupied Jersey)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 47 | View Replies]

To: commonerX
What kind of wimpy god needs to rest?


I never sleep!

65 posted on 04/14/2004 10:21:08 AM PDT by balrog666 (A public service post.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 52 | View Replies]

To: null and void
Jumped? I thought they fell...

They were pushed...and Bush knew!

66 posted on 04/14/2004 10:27:40 AM PDT by headsonpikes (Spirit of '76 bttt!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 40 | View Replies]

To: RightWhale
consciousness resides in the hydrogen atoms

Prove it.

Assuming for a moment that the proposition is true; does that mean that I, er... the atoms, I mean, er... the atoms that comprise 'me' mean, have any choice as to whether or not I, er... the atoms that comprise 'me' believe it? What if the atoms that comprise 'me' should happen to cause a different outcome in belief about consciousness residing in the hydrogen atoms than the atoms that comprise 'you'? How could either or any atoms possibly be considered by any conlgomeration of other hydrogen atoms to be "wrong", or 'incorrect'? How can pure physical forces that are nothing but the product of imperssonal evolutionary processes possibly produce anything that is wrong or incorrect?

Cordially,

67 posted on 04/14/2004 10:33:39 AM PDT by Diamond
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 55 | View Replies]

To: Diamond
The possibility of consciousness resides in the atoms. Possibly in the electrons of the shell of the atom. It may not be self-aware consciousness at the atomic level, that may be reserved to a higher functionality. But the potential for higher function is in the lower.
68 posted on 04/14/2004 10:39:31 AM PDT by RightWhale (Theorems link concepts; proofs establish links)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 67 | View Replies]

To: Diamond
nothing but the product of imperssonal evolutionary processes

Is that a necessary premise?

69 posted on 04/14/2004 10:41:31 AM PDT by RightWhale (Theorems link concepts; proofs establish links)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 67 | View Replies]

To: Momaw Nadon

70 posted on 04/14/2004 10:43:50 AM PDT by Tailgunner Joe ("As government expands, liberty contracts.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Modernman
But we'll be a well-dressed extinct species.

With rather tastefully-appointed tombs.

71 posted on 04/14/2004 10:44:17 AM PDT by Junior (Remember, you are unique, just like everyone else.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 45 | View Replies]

To: camle
Smeg!

I can already see the resemblance of the Democrats on the 9/11 commission to Dwayne Dibley . . .
72 posted on 04/14/2004 10:50:58 AM PDT by agrarianlady
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: Momaw Nadon
"It could explain the disappearance of a seemingly successful species, like Neanderthal man, with no need for external factors such as climate change."

There is no mystery. The Neanderthals were killed off in war. Humans do not evolve slowly or naturally as other animals do. Most human evolution occurs during war. Darwin himself wrote about this however leftist academics reject that humans are natural born killers. It does not agree with their narcissistic view of themselves or their view of the world.

73 posted on 04/14/2004 11:04:59 AM PDT by Reeses
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: agrarianlady
yeah. just what did you have the cat do with all my cigarettes and curry?
74 posted on 04/14/2004 11:05:10 AM PDT by camle (keep your mind open and somebody will fill it with something for you))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 72 | View Replies]

To: Tailgunner Joe
The Voluntary Human Extinction Movement:

http://www.vhemt.org/
75 posted on 04/14/2004 11:14:14 AM PDT by Modernman (Work is the curse of the drinking classes. -Oscar Wilde)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 70 | View Replies]

To: Momaw Nadon
Cancer: Cancer incidence does seem to have increased, but it is hard to say whether this is due to longer lifespans, more pollution, or telomere erosion.

The logic behind the "longer life spans" argument seems particularly strong, given that susceptibility does go up with age.

76 posted on 04/14/2004 11:14:19 AM PDT by VadeRetro
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: MattinNJ
"Yikes."

It's always something.

Did Asteroids And Comets Turn The Tides Of Civilization?

77 posted on 04/14/2004 11:35:27 AM PDT by blam
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 48 | View Replies]

To: Billthedrill
One thing about an overreliance on natural selection to extrapolate the future of H. sapiens - we cheat.

It isn't likely to avail in the long run. We are highly specialized vertibrates, with a boatload of maintenance problems. Earthworms or cockroaches are about the highest form of life that are likely to last as long as the sun shines.

Amongst other things, we are slow-breeding large social predators. Deprive us of natural selection in the form of wolves and bears and snakes and routine starvation-which is another description of "cheating"--and our genome will spread in every direction, regardless of the maladaption resulting. This does not augure well for the long term survival of our offspring.

A species survives because it is good at something at the genetic level. The more you substitute your brains for your genes, the less the genes adapt. Unless you can somehow assure that the adaptions of your brain remain useful for millenia, more technological intervention with natural selection will mean more drastic consequences whenever the bubble goes up, and your technological prowess fails you.

In other words, survival to the point of overwhelming the environment as a factor in your own survival, by brainpower, or any other means, contains the seeds of it's own distruction. Analogies to this case can be observed in almost any petri-dish, or runaway refrigerator experiment every performed.

78 posted on 04/14/2004 11:39:53 AM PDT by donh
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 62 | View Replies]

To: Billthedrill
One thing about an overreliance on natural selection to extrapolate the future of H. sapiens - we cheat.

It isn't likely to avail in the long run. We are highly specialized vertibrates, with a boatload of maintenance problems. Earthworms or cockroaches are about the highest form of life that are likely to last as long as the sun shines.

Amongst other things, we are slow-breeding large social predators. Deprive us of natural selection in the form of wolves and bears and snakes and routine starvation-which is another description of "cheating"--and our genome will spread in every direction, regardless of the maladaption resulting. This does not augure well for the long term survival of our offspring.

A species survives because it is good at something at the genetic level. The more you substitute your brains for your genes, the less the genes adapt. Unless you can somehow assure that the adaptions of your brain remain useful for millenia, more technological intervention with natural selection will mean more drastic consequences whenever the bubble goes up, and your technological prowess fails you.

In other words, survival to the point of overwhelming the environment as a factor in your own survival, by brainpower, or any other means, contains the seeds of it's own distruction. Analogies to this case can be observed in almost any petri-dish, or runaway refrigerator experiment ever performed.

79 posted on 04/14/2004 11:40:04 AM PDT by donh
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 62 | View Replies]

To: Reeses
Redheads 'Are Neanderthal'
80 posted on 04/14/2004 11:42:06 AM PDT by blam
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 73 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 41-6061-8081-100 ... 501-520 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson