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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius
"Trust me, if they were not truly able to do this, they would not be running a plant...commercially."

"...it's enough that this will be profitable one day..."

It's either being run commercially, thus making a profit, or it is just an experimental pilot plant that's losing money! Since not even CWT-Carthage claims they are making a profit, why not just admit upfront that it is not yet a commercial process?

"[Look at] all the oil being produced consistantly...we may see a dramatic decline in imported oil with 10 years or so."

When it comes to feces, I'm afraid I'll have to yield to your self-proclaimed expertise in the field. However I would hazard a guess that even if we were somehow able to process 100% of America's human and animal feces, the resulting product would not put even come close to putting a 1% dent in our oil imports. "Dramatic decline", indeed!

LOL, talk about flat out over-selling a technology! And you wonder why we don't trust the "Trust me" whiz kids that come up with these hair-brained schemes!

It's not that we don't see the benefits of this technology, when applied to the waste treatment industry, it's just that we hate to be lied to so outrageously about it being some sort of miracle energy production technology (OMG, it's 85% efficient!) and that it will also free us from Middle East oil dependence.

--Boot Hill

187 posted on 04/13/2004 4:07:14 PM PDT by Boot Hill (Candy-gram for Osama bin Mongo, candy-gram for Osama bin Mongo!!!)
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To: Boot Hill
Most businesses aren't in the black for years, yet they are commercial enterprises.

The Butterball plant does not have to pay for transport, storage and processing of 200 tons of turkey waste a day now, they simply transport it across their property and turn it into oil, fertilizer, minerals and water.

How much do you figure they are saving by not having to deal with the turkey waste the way the EPA would mandate?

The "refinery" will pay for itself soon, so while it is in the red for the time being, it will eventually start turning a profit for the investors.

This plant will not only make them money by supplying saleable items, but it saves them money up front in reducing the costs of transport, storage, and treatment of hazardous materials.
191 posted on 04/13/2004 4:20:38 PM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: Boot Hill
When it comes to feces, I'm afraid I'll have to yield to your self-proclaimed expertise in the field. However I would hazard a guess that even if we were somehow able to process 100% of America's human and animal feces, the resulting product would not put even come close to putting a 1% dent in our oil imports. "Dramatic decline", indeed!

Didn't you read the article ? The procedure can be applied to ALL ORGANIC WASTE MATERIALS ? Not just feces. For instance in ALL agricultural waste were fed into this process, it would replace ALL imported oil. This country produces an enormous amount of agricultural waste.

219 posted on 04/14/2004 2:06:16 AM PDT by Sam the Sham
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