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To: Wolfstar
The fact that the ad writers used literal statements to describe what they falsely believe is happening and then say "pull the trigger" doesn't mean they are saying that we should actually pick up our gun and shot for Rumsfeld. The phrase "pull the trigger" has several different meanings, especially when used in an arumentative context.

Look, the ad itself is silly. It has false arguments and looks like it was written by a 15 year old. To focus on one phrase and extract it it to lower our analysis to the same of the writers of the ad.

I am just saying we can easily rise above.
442 posted on 04/13/2004 11:43:47 AM PDT by graf008
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To: graf008
I am just saying we can easily rise above.

Translation: We are better than them, so lets just ignore their childish calls for assasination.

Sorry, I will not ignore, and those charged with Rummy's protection should not ignore.

445 posted on 04/13/2004 11:45:57 AM PDT by Phantom Lord (Distributor of Pain, Your Loss Becomes My Gain)
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To: graf008
Further, you posts remind me of Hillary and other RATS, who when caught making a non-PC statement that if a republican made would lead the news and cause protests and calls for resignation respond with "It was only a joke."

Until discovered and exposed the speaker/author is serious and once light is put upon their comments they revert to their "its a joke" defense. You seem to be supportive of this line of defense.

450 posted on 04/13/2004 11:47:43 AM PDT by Phantom Lord (Distributor of Pain, Your Loss Becomes My Gain)
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To: graf008
The phrase "pull the trigger" has several different meanings, especially when used in an arumentative context.

Can't say I buy that. If I posted a message with those same words about John Kerry, I guarantee you that the Secret Service wouldn't be so generous.

So why are you arguing we should be so generous when some seriously whacked Leftists are saying as much should be done to our Secretary of Defense?

451 posted on 04/13/2004 11:47:49 AM PDT by Prime Choice (Leftists claim Bush is a terrorist. So why aren't they trying to appease him?)
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To: graf008
that we should actually pick up our gun and shot for Rumsfeld. The phrase "pull the trigger" has several different meanings, especially when used in an arumentative context.
it Looks like you write like a fifteen year old. They did not call on we to shoot him, they are implying that he should be shot by one of their own. Pull the trigger, lets see, in baseball it means get a hit, in football it means throw the ball, I don't think they were talking about sports... I pull a trigger regularly, I know what it means.
463 posted on 04/13/2004 11:53:51 AM PDT by Armed Civilian ("Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice, moderation in pursuit of justice is no virtue.")
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To: graf008
The ad says "And then there's Rumsfeld who said of Iraq 'We have our good days and our bad days'. We should put this S.O.B. up against a wall and say "This is one of our bad days," and pull the trigger".

I think the context of the term "pull the trigger" in this case is quite clear.

That said; note the grammar, the punctuation, the nonstandard Democratic Party logo and the fact that these two use only their first names. We are not dealing with a sophisticated group here. Then again the Oklahoma City bombing wasn't carried out by very sophisticated individuals either.
496 posted on 04/13/2004 12:05:19 PM PDT by InABunkerUnderSF (Where there is no vision the people perish.)
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To: graf008
"The phrase "pull the trigger" has several different meanings, especially when used in an arumentative context."

Maybe so, in an isolated context.

However, only someone trying to minimize the statement wouldn't understand that the whole phrase .. "We should put this S.O.B. up against a wall and say 'This is one of our bad days,' and pull the trigger .. doesn't mean just what it says ...

Execution.

504 posted on 04/13/2004 12:06:50 PM PDT by BlueLancer (Der Elite Møøsënspåånkængrüppen ØberKømmååndø (EMØØK))
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To: graf008
FROM MIRRIAM-WEBSTER:
Main Entry: fig·u·ra·tive
Function: adjective
1 a : representing by a figure or resemblance : EMBLEMATIC b : of or relating to representation of form or figure in art (figurative sculpture)
2 a : expressing one thing in terms normally denoting another with which it may be regarded as analogous : METAPHORICAL (figurative language) b : characterized by figures of speech (a figurative description)

So, in the context of the ad, exactly what was, "We should put this S.O.B. up against a wall and say, 'This is one of our bad days,' and pull the trigger," representing emblematically or metaphorically?

509 posted on 04/13/2004 12:08:26 PM PDT by Wolfstar (John F. Kerry is a true Leftist idealogue — a true Leftist believer.)
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