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The Mercenary Alliance
StrategyPage.com ^ | April 12, 2004:

Posted on 04/12/2004 2:02:05 PM PDT by Cannoneer No. 4

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I disagree with the characterization of American contract security professionals in Iraq as mercenaries. Almost all of these people are prior service, many former Special Forces, Ranger, and SEAL Team operators. If they were true mercenaries, they would change sides and work for the Baathists/Sadr Militia/Hezbollah/Iranians/Syrians/Jihadis if those pukes offered more money. I do not believe any American security professional in Iraq has done that, and I doubt any will.

Other than that, I found it an interesting article.

Thousands of Iraqis are working for various Iraqi and foreign security firms, protecting property and making commerce and industry possible. Perhaps we will see private enterprise step in to accomplish what the ICDC cannot.

1 posted on 04/12/2004 2:02:05 PM PDT by Cannoneer No. 4
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To: getgoing
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2 posted on 04/12/2004 2:07:35 PM PDT by Cannoneer No. 4 (I've lost turret power; I have my nods and my .50. Hooah. I will stay until relieved. White 2 out.)
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To: ChiefKujo; Eagle Eye; 91B; monie8401; mike1sg; historian1944; Allegra; tomakaze; Steel Wolf; ...
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3 posted on 04/12/2004 2:14:13 PM PDT by Cannoneer No. 4 (I've lost turret power; I have my nods and my .50. Hooah. I will stay until relieved. White 2 out.)
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To: Cannoneer No. 4
Good news bump. Thanks for the ping.
4 posted on 04/12/2004 2:24:20 PM PDT by leadpenny
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To: Cannoneer No. 4
Semantics used by an outsider.

This is truly an interesting development.

I agree that this increase the professional response to security issues. With this comes their need to vet any group wishing to enter this theatre.

How many Gov'ts will sanction and cooperate with this? How will the Hague view this? What stance will UN and its affiliate agencies take? Will NGO's accept and cooperate with this alliance?
And very important - How will the Iraqis react to this force coming into existence in their country?

Lots of questions. Good Luck Lads!

5 posted on 04/12/2004 2:27:19 PM PDT by Khurkris (Ranger On...)
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Two of the three battalions of the new Iraqi army was brought in to perform security in parts of Fallujah where the gunmen had been cleared out. One of those battalions refused to enter the city. Some of the troops said they "would not fight Iraqis." This was described as a "command failure," meaning that the Iraqi officers were not up to the task of leading and motivating their troops. This has long been a problem with Iraqi troops and it is recognized that selecting and training competent Iraqi officers will be a major task.

Imagine instead of this kind of battalion a private enterprise private military company of about 800 to 1000 men, with the other ranks mixed, integrated squads of Kurd, Shia and Sunni Iraqis, the noncommissioned officers Jordanian, Indian, Fijian and Gurkha, and the commissioned officers American, British, Australian, New Zealand, Canadian, Polish, Italian, Spanish and Chilean, all the leadership personnel with extensive military backgrounds.

Another idea would be to hire ex- US Special Forces operators to organize, train and lead Mike Forces recruited from indigenous personnel.

6 posted on 04/12/2004 2:31:59 PM PDT by Cannoneer No. 4 (I've lost turret power; I have my nods and my .50. Hooah. I will stay until relieved. White 2 out.)
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Meyer & Associates

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8 posted on 04/12/2004 2:37:58 PM PDT by Cannoneer No. 4 (I've lost turret power; I have my nods and my .50. Hooah. I will stay until relieved. White 2 out.)
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9 posted on 04/12/2004 2:45:36 PM PDT by Cannoneer No. 4 (I've lost turret power; I have my nods and my .50. Hooah. I will stay until relieved. White 2 out.)
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10 posted on 04/12/2004 2:55:53 PM PDT by Cannoneer No. 4 (I've lost turret power; I have my nods and my .50. Hooah. I will stay until relieved. White 2 out.)
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Vinnell did not cover themselves with glory training the ICDC
11 posted on 04/12/2004 3:11:57 PM PDT by Cannoneer No. 4 (I've lost turret power; I have my nods and my .50. Hooah. I will stay until relieved. White 2 out.)
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To: Cannoneer No. 4
Not mercs, but Janissaries.

Dedicated, nongovt tools of a govt.
12 posted on 04/12/2004 3:14:05 PM PDT by swarthyguy
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To: military cop; MPJackal; Steel Wolf; Criminal Number 18F; Travis McGee; Squantos
Why Mercenaries Make Sense

If you can speak English (which is the common language of international business) and have at least five years military experience in the appropriate area (military police, special operations and so on), you are recruitable. The standard offer is two to three times what you made as a full time soldier, plus fringe benefits. Even experienced police are being recruited, especially if they have SWAT experience.

13 posted on 04/12/2004 3:20:47 PM PDT by Cannoneer No. 4 (I've lost turret power; I have my nods and my .50. Hooah. I will stay until relieved. White 2 out.)
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To: swarthyguy
Military annals reveal few organizations whose history is more extraordinary than that of the corps of the Janizaries, which for nearly five hundred years constituted the backbone of the armed forces of the Ottoman Empire. Not only was it the first true infantry of modern times, but the method by which its ranks were filled was unique.
14 posted on 04/12/2004 3:25:38 PM PDT by Cannoneer No. 4 (I've lost turret power; I have my nods and my .50. Hooah. I will stay until relieved. White 2 out.)
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To: Cannoneer No. 4
Using captured Christians then associated with a Derwish cleric raises interesting questions for today.

It is an amazingly fascinating history.

Of course, the British used Muslim, Hindu and Christians from the SubContinent to control their Empire, from Ethiopia to Khartoum to Iraq 1920 to Somme, Flanders and El Alamein.

I think we got our modernday Janissaries by bringing back Baathi Generals to run the Iraki army, as mentioned by Abizaid and Sanchez today.

News is the best out of there.
15 posted on 04/12/2004 3:30:56 PM PDT by swarthyguy
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ProRev: U.S. Hiring Mercenaries For Iraq
16 posted on 04/12/2004 3:54:26 PM PDT by Cannoneer No. 4 (I've lost turret power; I have my nods and my .50. Hooah. I will stay until relieved. White 2 out.)
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To: Cannoneer No. 4
Man... the moose-limbs, Dimnocrats and the U(seless) N(imwits) would crap kittens.
...because it would more than likely work.
17 posted on 04/12/2004 4:12:00 PM PDT by cavtrooper21 (Yes.. I'm one of those "old guys" in the "funny hats". I served. Did you?)
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The Temps of War: Blue-Collar Workers Ship Out for Iraq
18 posted on 04/12/2004 4:31:29 PM PDT by Cannoneer No. 4 (I've lost turret power; I have my nods and my .50. Hooah. I will stay until relieved. White 2 out.)
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To: swarthyguy
Took a long time, but I finally found this post which links to various indigenous military and constabulary forces.
19 posted on 04/12/2004 4:54:24 PM PDT by Cannoneer No. 4 (I've lost turret power; I have my nods and my .50. Hooah. I will stay until relieved. White 2 out.)
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To: Cannoneer No. 4; Squantos; river rat; Criminal Number 18F
The "mercenary" characterization pisses me off too. Their paychecks are signed by the same Uncle Sam who signs Private Snuffy's green paycheck. They would not work for the other side for more money. They are NOT mercenaries!
20 posted on 04/12/2004 5:24:18 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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