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To: cajungirl
From me: And as I said, I'm talking about ordinary, not sex criminals, males.

From you: sex addicts and men addicted to porn ... These men are for the most part untreatable.

I think there is the misconcept that is driving the difference in point of view. There is a difference between being addicted to sex or porn and being a sex criminal.

The blood of Jesus cleanses us (those who believe in Him as Savior and Lord) of ALL sin. Sexual sin. Sexual addictions. I do not know the percentage of men who come under the category of being moderately or wholly in the grip of sexual addictions of one type or another, but from the research I've seen and the people I've talked with, I would venture to say that it is beyond all you would imagine -- or want to know. I am sure there are a lot of guys reading this thread who agree but aren't going to say so on the forum.

Cure rates for men who have committed sex crimes are lousy, but as in every other type of sin, the blood of Jesus can overcome it. Men who have not crossed the line into criminal activity do have less of a struggle to overcome addictions.

you are playing a strange game

When a sinner repents and wants to be free of his (or her) sin, confession is the outward starting point. Would you have guys keep this burning inside of them, eating them up, when they want to confess their sins and be cleansed, and have power to overcome them? It's not a strange game. It's the gospel in action.

Do you know Jesus in this way, as Savior? As Lord? As the one who overcomes sin as He lives inside a repentant sinner? If you have never been grievously bound by some sin and had no one to turn to for help, you will not find this easy to understand, but Jesus didn't come to save the righteous, but sinners (and we are all sinners). He said it is not the well who need a physician, but the sick. He got into the troughs, the pits of the worst of humanity in order to save us. If we say we are without sin, we lie. Men who know they have a problem with this, and confess it, touch God's heart and He will move heaven and earth to help them get free.

470 posted on 04/12/2004 12:45:09 PM PDT by GretchenEE (Want to see more US soldiers stay alive? Drench them in prayer!)
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To: GretchenEE
You brought up sex addicts and porn addicts not me. And if you wish to go around talking and sympathising and saving tthem while admonishing your fellow church going lady friends to cover up lest they inflame them, be my guest. But I still think you ought to leave such work to the men of the church and let the ladies be, barebacked and all.
521 posted on 04/12/2004 1:14:56 PM PDT by cajungirl (<i>swing low, sweet limousine, comin' fer to Kerry me hoooommmee</i>)
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