[Jim Noble]

The death toll is 500 Iraqis until now with over a thousand injured, a huge price to pay for 'pacification'

We killed 100 000+ in Tokyo, and most of them weren't fighting.

If I was in charge, Fallujah would be gone and everyone in it would be dead.

As the days go by, it seems increasingly likely to me that this would have been the correct thing to do.

[Hoosier-Daddy]

I believe that what helped us after WWII with the pacification of the Axis powers was the utter destruction we brought upon their countries. In Iraq, we took over with minimum civilian casualties. While I deplore killing, the Iraqis have not felt the full weight of our military might, and were not 'defeated'. Realizing that that was never our intentions, we are occupying surrounded by undefeated enemies. We are in effect killing ourselves with kindness.