[Sender]

I completely agree that they are planning to export Islam and impose shari'a law over here even if it takes 100 years, by their own admission. And we must stop that. But I don't think we should "kill them all" or we would become as low as they are.

What we must do is to show them the force we can project when we are threatened and find a way to deter them from attacking us and coming over here...which is kind of hard to do when you're dealing with "martyrs" who welcome their own deaths.

We need some kind of "Sword of Damocles" hanging over the head of the whole Islamic ummah, something that they cannot risk at any price. Only then will we have any security. There are millions upon millions of them and we can't get them all even if we tried.

[UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide]

I'll answer point by point:

We could not "be as low as they are" because we did not start it and we do not set the terms.

As you mention, it is hard to show enough force to deter willing martyrs. The Muslim answer to any amount of potential power is "God is greater" (Allahu Akbar). Therefore, the actions of even single individuals, as 9/11 was, are undeterable.

I don't understand your "Sword of Damocles" which you contradict with "you can't get them all." I believe in giving people a chance. But you must respond asymetrically. And at some point you have to say the h3ll with it and drop the sword on them.

The ideology of Shari'a and the words of Qur'an (e.g 9:29-32) and Hadith make it clear that this will at best be a recurring problem as new generations take it seriously, and a growing problem if not constantly pruned, meaning chronic war.

[happygrl]

We need some kind of "Sword of Damocles"

The only possible such threat would be to drop one on Mecca.

I hope that such an intimidation is being weighed and considered, at least as a deterrence.