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To: tpaine; E Rocc
E rocc Makes some good points in his reply, and let me add another thought.

If some choose to serve America by their contribution to the economy (our wealth is just as influential as our bullets, if handled properly), or by strengthening our moral characteristics by going into the ministry, or by staying home with the kids instead of sending them off to day care, or basically doing what is right, however that happens to play out, then that individual has a say in society.

The ones who live off the labor of others, complain and subvert the destiny of this nation are the enemy within. They unfortunately have more of a say than they ever should.

But nobody can justly project the calling of a soldier onto every individual. I'm much more valuable as a businessman than a soldier.

But don't get me wrong, I'll carry a rifle to defend my country, if it comes to that.

33 posted on 04/11/2004 3:09:13 PM PDT by ovrtaxt (Kerry hates heavy metal. MOSH PITTTTT !!!!!!)
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To: ovrtaxt
But nobody can justly project the calling of a soldier onto every individual. I'm much more valuable as a businessman than a soldier.

Well said. The nation needs businessmen, housewives, employees, employers, teachers, ministers, scientists, activists, and all the vast threads in the tapestry of Western Civilization that have made us as strong as we are.

The war is against us all, and we would win oh so easily, if we did not have to contend with the 5th column that are the Demonrats and the OldDominantLiberalMedia.

50 posted on 04/11/2004 5:07:22 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: ovrtaxt; E Rocc
-- I see a need for a voluntary 'rite of passage' type draft in America.. One tied to becoming a full voting citizen. -- Call it a boot camp for the franchise. -- No service, no vote.
-tpaine-

Extremely bad idea, for four reasons. 1) It puts those who resent being there into the military. There's a reason pretty much every military professional in the US prefers an all-volunteer force.

A voluntary boot camp for the privilege of voting is not a proposed general military draft.

2) It will get those currently apathetic kids interested in politics in a very non-constructive manner.

Why should that be so? The idea is to get them interested in constructive citizenship.

3) It allows politicians to skimp on military pay, military equipment, and military preparedness in order to pay for welfare or pork barrel projects.

That's quite an assumption.. One made on nothing I proposed..

4) It allows politicians to fight half-ast wars of attrition using an endless supply of cannon fodder rather than fighting wars to their conclusion as quickly as possible.

More hyped up assumptions, based on your fancies, not mine.

If you want to play social engineer, don't mess with the military. It's too important.

I didn't propose "messing" with the military. Get a grip.

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E rocc Makes some good points in his reply, and let me add another thought.
If some choose to serve America by their contribution to the economy (our wealth is just as influential as our bullets, if handled properly), or by strengthening our moral characteristics by going into the ministry, or by staying home with the kids instead of sending them off to day care, or basically doing what is right, however that happens to play out, then that individual has a say in society.
The ones who live off the labor of others, complain and subvert the destiny of this nation are the enemy within. They unfortunately have more of a say than they ever should. But nobody can justly project the calling of a soldier onto every individual. I'm much more valuable as a businessman than a soldier.
But don't get me wrong, I'll carry a rifle to defend my country, if it comes to that.
ovrtaxt

I think you've got me wrong. See above.

75 posted on 04/11/2004 8:36:45 PM PDT by tpaine (In their arrogance, a few infinitely shrewd imbeciles attempt to lay down the 'law' for all of us.)
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