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AIN'T IT COOL? A Tale of Two Cultures
American Digest ^
| April 13, 2004
| Gerard Van der Leun
Posted on 04/11/2004 12:36:55 PM PDT by vanderleun
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To: vanderleun
This photo has the poignancy of the flag raising at Iwo Jima, should be made into a memorial statue...
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posted on
04/11/2004 4:15:44 PM PDT
by
etcetera
To: Joe Hadenuf
I'm not sure why he targeted OC. One can look in the obits each week to see the number of locals who have died in Iraq. In fact, today's LA Times had quite a few. OC is one of the most conservative places in Calif. An HB councilman has a West Point educated son currenty over in Iraq. For a large number of the kids the author saw at the Irvine Spectrum, many are just passing through a phase before they too become life-long Rs.
To: vanderleun; 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
"The photograph was taken in a hanger at a military base. It shows a group of young, uncool American Marines kneeling in a tight circle on the ground in prayer. Prayer. How totally uncool. "...and to add to the 'uncool'...at least two of the Marines kneeling in Prayer....are Medics. Who have probably just done everything they could...ranted..raved...yelled...pleaded...for that young Marine to live.
....and all the time while doing so (I can guarantee this....I've 'been there') they were Praying just as hard and fast as they could.
And in the end...that young Marine could have NO BETTER last vision of this Earth than those men gathered around him.
Happy Easter.
redrock
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posted on
04/11/2004 4:24:10 PM PDT
by
redrock
("One man with courage....makes a majority"---Andrew Jackson)
To: Snerfling
Probably b/c that was the source of the hippie generation, that area in general.
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posted on
04/11/2004 4:29:30 PM PDT
by
wingster
To: RonDog
My son was in Kwait for three months a couple of years ago.
He e-mailed a picture of one of those.
He will be going to Iraq in May.
Sadly, those who most need to hear this, read it, wouldn't understand it anyway. Wisdom comes with age, experience, and lessons learned. The people this refers to usually don't have the experiences or lessons to establish that wisdom, nor the common sense or existing wisdom to have it generate itself.
Many drop out of those ranks w/ age. That's why the Dim party is so vehemently after the youth culture.
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posted on
04/11/2004 4:31:36 PM PDT
by
wingster
To: Joe Hadenuf
You make a very strong point. I served with a lot of very cool surfer dudes who somehow found their way to the recruiter. But I accept the general point of the article about how the vase majority of today's mall rats could care less about the defense of this nation. They can't even comprehend themselves taking arms to defend America.
47
posted on
04/11/2004 4:36:16 PM PDT
by
Travis McGee
(----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: vanderleun
Btt.
49
posted on
04/11/2004 5:04:51 PM PDT
by
Rocko
(GWB: "Release the pdb in pdf, asap and pdq; I'm tired of all this bs from the sobs @ the DNC.")
To: ovrtaxt
But nobody can justly project the calling of a soldier onto every individual. I'm much more valuable as a businessman than a soldier. Well said. The nation needs businessmen, housewives, employees, employers, teachers, ministers, scientists, activists, and all the vast threads in the tapestry of Western Civilization that have made us as strong as we are.
The war is against us all, and we would win oh so easily, if we did not have to contend with the 5th column that are the Demonrats and the OldDominantLiberalMedia.
To: tpaine
"I see a need for a voluntary 'rite of passage' type draft in America..
One tied to becoming a full voting citizen. -- Call it a boot camp for the franchise. -- No service, no vote."
Robert Heinlein supported this point of view in his novels.
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posted on
04/11/2004 5:08:50 PM PDT
by
optik_b
(follow the money)
To: Snerfling
I'm not sure why he targeted OC. One can look in the obits each week to see the number of locals who have died in Iraq. In fact, today's LA Times had quite a few. OC is one of the most conservative places in Calif. Good question.
52
posted on
04/11/2004 5:10:08 PM PDT
by
Joe Hadenuf
(I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
To: vanderleun
Thanks for a most interesting post - good job with it.
Cheers.
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posted on
04/11/2004 5:23:31 PM PDT
by
lodwick
(Wake up, America!)
To: 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 4.1O dana super trac pak; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; A CA Guy; ...
I'm pinging to a slightly different topic today, y'all. But I'm guessing there are more than a few on this list who will appreciate this essay.
HJ
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posted on
04/11/2004 5:26:09 PM PDT
by
HiJinx
(God Bless those who protect the USA...)
To: vanderleun
Very well done. This is one of the reasons I come to FR.
55
posted on
04/11/2004 5:30:10 PM PDT
by
Big Horn
(A waist is a terrible thing to mind.)
To: archy; vanderleun
Mr. Van Der Leun, thank you for the article, and Archy, thank you for posting the photo.
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posted on
04/11/2004 5:30:37 PM PDT
by
dbwz
To: vanderleun
stellar
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posted on
04/11/2004 5:35:13 PM PDT
by
dennisw
(“We'll put a boot in your ass, it's the American way.” - Toby Keith)
To: vanderleun
Wonderful writing.
I absolutely abhor the culture of "cool." Maturity, etiquette, manners, and order have no meaning to the hedonistic fascists of our time.
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posted on
04/11/2004 5:36:52 PM PDT
by
MegaSilver
(Surrexit Christus)
To: Travis McGee
I agree, however, this guy singles out OC like these types of young people don't exist in Texas, Colorado, NY etc. Tons of conservative in the so. Cal area that stand more than a few paces to the right of Bush, and their kids grow up just like them.
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posted on
04/11/2004 5:48:44 PM PDT
by
Joe Hadenuf
(I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
To: tet68
One tied to becoming a full voting citizen. -- Call it a boot camp for the franchise. -- No service, no vote. Read Starship Troopers by Heinlein.
Military service OR a somewhat longer term in social/community service or no franchise.
Interesting read even with out the bugs.
FYI, see the discussion at the thread here, in particular post #102
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posted on
04/11/2004 5:56:00 PM PDT
by
archy
(The darkness will come. It will find you,and it will scare you like you've never been scared before.)
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