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Yep, you're right. The people on this thread will go to their grave screaming "Girl like nice guys!" and call me every name in the book when I disagree. Just look at the posts on this thread and see how vicious and hysterical they get. We always make fun of liberals when they resort to ad hominem attacks, well the majority of people on FR do the same thing.

I have learned through experience that the Prince Charming romantic crap is a complete waste of time and especially MONEY. Women see politeness as weakness. If you're a nice guy, you'll be put on the "Just Friends" list and will probably never be removed.

The a-holes are the ones that get the girls. Treat females like crap. Never EVER physically abuse them. But just be a jerk. THEY LOVE IT. They'll always come back for more.

I may have just figured out what the problem is. You are very familiar with women and can handle any of them. Now that may be something to be proud of where you're from, I haven't the slighest idea.

I'm married to a lady, my two daughters are ladies and their grandmothers are ladies. Yup, they're all of the female breed capable of giving birth to infants but to define them as just "women" would be a serious insult.

These are the sort of ladies who will stand to the doorside when they are being escorted by a man so he can open the door easily for them. Good manners isn't a oddity to them. Nor is hard work. They all have spent long days helping with the Spring round up.

I use to chuckle when one of the cowboys would slip and start cussin at a calf that was giving him trouble. My wife has this glare that will make the hair on your neck stand up if you cuss around her daughters. A cowboy only needed to see it once and the apologies would sprout loud and clear.

I think you need to learn the difference between a woman and a lady. It's as clear as night and day. Good luck

Suggesting that you treat women well is NOT feministic. It's traditional. It's what most parents taught their sons. And they taught their daughters to be ladies.

It's about respect. The fact that you don't understand that shows your immaturity, and lack of proper upbringing.