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To: Eastbound
Eastbound:

Since you have run out of rational arguments I will accept your #56 posting as your tacit admission that you have nothing factual to add to this discussion.

Ernie
63 posted on 04/11/2004 9:45:17 PM PDT by Ernie.cal
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To: Ernie.cal; Eastbound; philetus
I've read your post and the 63 comments that followed. I'm still trying to figure out why this fixation with the JBS, why this attack, and especially why now?

What is driving you? 20 years of research and FOIA requests? 20 years? It sure sounds like it is an obsession.

Even if they did get some things wrong. . . Even if some lies were told (overzealousness?). . . They are not the enemy of liberty. They aren't out to destroy my liberty.

If Carter wasn't guilty of treason while in office, he certainly has given aid and comfort to them since then.

What do you think of Clinton? Is he guilty of any impeachable offenses? Has he committed treasonous acts? Or aren't they treasonable because his way (the 3rd way) was pleasing to those who don't value freedom? -- You know, those that don't agree with me and my view of this country.

To avoid being labeled partisan, what about Bush's tenure? Has he violated the Constitution? What does that make me if I do think that he has?

I just can't help but think that you have some agenda other than doing us a public service by enlightening us. I just don't know what it is.
67 posted on 04/11/2004 10:58:16 PM PDT by Badray (Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown. RIP harpseal.)
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To: Ernie.cal
You're right, Ernie. I have nothing to add, so I will depart. But let me try to redeem the bandwidth here a little before I go. In response to your question if you are correct in your analysis of what my politics are, let me submit this:

Yes, you are mistaken.

Like millions of Americans, I am fed up with our out of control federal government. Therefore, I am helping to roll back decades of liberal/socialist public policy and eliminate the waste, fraud, abuse and corruption pervasive in Washington today.

I am dedicated to helping reverse the trend of unconstitutional government expansion and advocate a complete restoration of our constitutional republic.

I submit:

Basically, I believe that the Founders designed our system of government in the form of a constitutionally limited republic, with maximum freedom intended for the people and minimum government control or interference into our personal lives and business affairs.

The united states of America was intended to be a federation of sovereign states, each with its own constitution and state government. Governments at all levels -- federal, state and local -- were to be controlled by the people. Our Constitution explicitly restricts the power of our federal government; and our Bill of Rights guarantees that NO government may infringe upon our God given unalienable rights. This is to ensure that the real power remains close to home, with the states, the local governments and always in the hands of the people.

We the People have granted our federal government limited powers to oversee certain things, such as national defense, interstate commerce, the postal service, the coining of money, and the operation of a court system. Most other powers now in the hands of the federal government were illegally usurped from the states and from the people.

Somehow, over the years, our guiding principles of law, as set forth in the Constitution, have been eroded to the point that the federal government now has total control -- leaving the states impotent and the people as captive servants to the federal government. This must be reversed if we are to survive as a free Republic and a free people.

I am determined to help return the Constitution to its rightful place as the Supreme Law of the land as the Founders intended.

To wit:

The preservation and complete restoration of our Constitution and Bill of Rights with special emphasis on the first, second, fourth, fifth, sixth, ninth and tenth amendments and, of course, our right to life, liberty and pursuit of happiness -- free of government intervention.

I call for the repeal of the 17th amendment, which will reverse the independence of the Senate and reestablish the Senate as a representative of the State governments, as intended by the Founding Fathers. This arrangement was intended to be a critical check against illegal federal expansion over the States, and the people residing in the various States, and will act to return the powers not granted to the federal government, as enumerated in the Constitution, to the states.

I call for the repeal of the 16th amendment and to abolish the income tax and the IRS. Revenues to the federal government should come from excise taxes and tariffs.

I call for the repeal of the Emergency and War Powers Acts, an end to all national emergencies and a ban on the unilateral creation of law by Presidential edict. I all call for the repeal all laws created by unconstitutional and extraconstitutional devices, such as Executive Order or Presidential Directive.

I call for the repeal of the war and emergency powers acts and the various states of national emergencies, which will allow the abolishing of all unconstitutional federal law, agencies and departments. This will return us to a Federalist system of government and return many responsibilities to the States and personal rights to the citizens.

I call for the return to a strictly Constitutional form of federal government that will automatically repeal and abolish all unconstitutional federal involvement in states issues such as: crime, health, education, welfare and the environment. The Tenth Amendment will again be in effect, which will bar all federal attempts at legislating social issues. This will also require that social programs such as Social Security, welfare and Medicare be repealed. So too, will most federal subsidies.

I also call for the rescinding of all treaties and/or International Agreements which are not in perfect agreement with the federal government’s Constitutionally mandated task of protecting the rights of the people.

I believe that the United States should disassociate itself from the U.N. and that the U.N. should be forced to leave the United States. Furthermore, I demand that the federal government refrain from meddling in the business and squabbles of foreign nations, unless there is an imminent threat to the people of the United States.

I also call for the strengthening of our military and defenses; the effective control over illegal immigration and smuggling; the paying down the national debt; and strict control over federal agencies like the CIA and the FBI.

I DO NOT condone bigotry or violence and DO NOT advocate an overthrow of the government.

If this sounds a little too radical and restrictive for you, you might want to take it up with the person who composed it.

68 posted on 04/11/2004 11:12:25 PM PDT by Eastbound
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