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To: Ernie.cal
Was Larry McDonald not designated as the president of the John Birch Society before his death in 1983? After his death, and that of Robert Welch, the Birchers had a schism, with several, including the founder's widow and Alan Stang, who boasts about his closeness to Robert Welch on his Web site, leaving the JBS and associating with The Welch Foundation. Was there anything other than personal power plays involved in the schism? Looking at the Welch Report Web site, there does not appear to be much difference between the groups ideologically.

The numbers cited in Welch's numbers were as of 1961. Did those percentage of Catholics vs. others hold up through the decades? At least two areas of Birch Society strength, Dallas and Salt Lake City, historically have had relatively small populations of white Catholics. Additionally, the theological liberalism promoted by the Second Vatican Council had its effects on the political and social views of Catholics, as evidenced by increasingly Democratic tendencies in the suburban counties surrounding Chicago, Philadelphia, New York, and Baltimore after 1988. Many Northeastern and Great Lakes white Catholics of the G.I Generation, who listened to Charles Coughlin in their youth and admired Joseph McCarthy and Douglas MacArthur as young adults, produced Baby Boomer offspring who idealized Bobby Kennedy and George McGovern as young people and who voted in the Cuomos, the Ted Kennedys, the Kuciniches, the Bidens, and the Liebermans in the 1980s and thereafter.

OTOH, in the 1970s, white evangelical Protestants moved politically to the right, and reentered the arena of politics after a half century of exile after the failure of Prohibition and the humiliation of the Scopes trial. Before 1990, the South produced a substantial minority of white liberal politicians (though some were moderate by national standards): William Fulbright, the Gores, Lawton Chiles, Claude Pepper, Terry Sanford, Lyndon Johnson, Jimmy Carter, Ann Richards, Carl Albert, Bill Clinton. Such politicians were far rarer after 1990.

Thus, it would appear likely that the religious composition of the Birchers by, say, 1982, was more heavily weighted toward evangelical Protestants than it would have been in 1961.

If Welch were not lucid in his final weeks, one wonders how valid his conversion to Catholicism would have been. I'm not Catholic, but I would think that informed consent and an acceptance of at least the rudiments of the Catholic faith are necessary on the part of an adult before receiving baptism for that sacrament to be efficacious. Since traditionalist Catholics are separate from the mainstream of their church because of doctrinal issues, one would not think that John McManus would be involved in a bogus "conversion" of a terminally ill man.

173 posted on 04/26/2004 2:50:51 PM PDT by Wallace T.
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To: Wallace T.
Wallace:

Unfortunately, the material I need to answer you with some precision is in storage boxes, but I can offer these general thoughts...

WELCH SUCCESSOR
Yes, Larry McDonald was chosen as Welch's successor. However, within the upper echelons of the JBS, it had always been assumed that Welch would pass the baton to Tom Hill.

Unfortunately, since the JBS forbids outsiders from reviewing its internal documents AND since the JBS itself does not produce any in-house history, we cannot presently know how, when, and why McDonald was chosen over Hill.

CATHOLICS: You inquire if the "percentage of Catholics vs. others" in the JBS remained constant through the decades. I don't know. Aside from Welch's remarks in 1961 which I quoted, a 1965 JBS publication entitled "What Is The John Birch Society?" stated that "We estimate that about forty percent of our total membership is Catholic."

POST-WELCH SCHISM:
Aside from the material on Stang's website, I also have correspondence between and among several very prominent Birch officials---including several National Council members and Coordinators---which reveal a very bitter internal dispute.

Allegations include financial improprieties at HQ, top officials demanding absolute obedience to HQ instructions and thwarting any independent thinking or innovative local programs; accusations about a "hidden anti-Christian (primarily anti-Catholic) agenda" at HQ; allegations about top officials lining their own pockets, and engaging in dishonest conduct and orchestrating smear campaigns against critics who were JBS chapter leaders, section leaders, and Coordinators. 25-35 year veterans described JBS HQ edicts as "deliberately destroying" the organization which Welch created.

So much about the JBS is unknown (and perhaps unknowable). One major source of new information has hardly been scratched: private papers of prominent JBS officials. Hopefully, sometime in the future, scholars will be able to piece together the puzzle with some degree of accuracy as they peruse the private papers at various universities of such key figures as William Grede, Tom Anderson, J.B. Matthews, Clarence Manion, T. Coleman Andrews. Also would be fascinating to discover if persons like John Rousselot and Tom Hill left any private papers which would shed light on JBS history.



174 posted on 04/26/2004 7:26:14 PM PDT by Ernie.cal
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