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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
These are not men. They are demons.

They may not be demons in the strictest sense of the word BUT they appear to worship Satan IMHO. The only "god" who demands human sacrifice and loves to inflict suffering on innocents is the Lord of Darkness.

16 posted on 04/11/2004 8:11:05 AM PDT by foreshadowed at waco
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To: foreshadowed at waco
Empathy, thank goodness is no stranger to me.

I try to understand how the Fallajah insurgent was brought to this level of action and hatred.

First,knowing that the trypical Middle-Eastern citizen is going to bet on the strong horse, no matter the rider.

They bet with Saddam Hussein and enjoyed the equivilant...if not monetarily, at least in emotional terms, a lifestyle and comfort the upper middle class enjoy here in the USA.

Nobody questions the entire world is better without Saddam Hussein. Nobody that is except the Baathists who dominate Fallajah.

In the worst case scenario what could we come up with to equate their sudden loss of everything they ever held dear?

Liberals and Conservatives in an actual civil war at a time when somebody like Hillary Clinton or John Kerry occupy the White House?

And the Supreme Court "looks" a lot more Liberal Left than those heady days demonstrating at the Supreme Court in the Election of 2000, doesn't it?

They shut down internet-access in the name of National Security. FreeRepulic is flatlined.

Our taxes get more confiscatory...it gets to be dangerous to be a Conservative on the street. Afterall, we're humans.

Some idiot legislature creates a bill that if passed would allow the government to place GPS chips on all citizens they deemed possibly a danger to "national security".

I'd say all Freepers would instantly become Charter Members. And everything we've ever typed will and can be used as "evidence" to support their charge.

Okay, that's enough of a nightmare to understand just what the young men of Fallajah are feeling against the "occupation".

Their custom has religion influence their behavior and their self-inflicted boundaries in everyday life. When you add their ancient, barbaric interpretation of the Koran to the mix, it spells trouble.

Okay, now we can understand the secular reaons they hate us for invading their world. Because they want to kill you however, you have the DUTY...not the right...to kill them first.

The only real option is to give them a reason to pick up arms and then kill them. So far so good.

Because we're at war I don't believe anything will be done to save these hostages. Remember dozens of innocent American citizens were forced to jump to their deaths on 9/11. We couldn't save them either, despite every camera in the civilized world watching in real time.

God Bless President George Bush. God Bless America.

20 posted on 04/11/2004 8:54:31 AM PDT by DCPatriot
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To: foreshadowed at waco
Kurtz:

" I've seen horrors...horrors that you've seen. But you have no right to call me a murderer. You have a right to kill me. You have a right to do that...But you have no right to judge me. It's impossible for words to describe what is necessary to those who do not know what horror means. Horror. Horror has a face...And you must make a friend of horror. Horror and moral terrorare your friends. If they are not then they are enemies to be feared. They are truly enemies. I remember when I was with Special Forces...Seems a thousand centuries ago...We went into a camp to innoculate the children. We left the camp after we had innoculated the children for Polio, and this old man came running after us and he was crying. He couldn't see. We went back there and they had come and hacked off every innoculated arm. There they were in a pile...A pile of little arms. And I remember...I...I...I cried... I wept like some grandmother. I wanted to tear my teeth out. I didn't know what I wanted to do. And I want to remember it. I never want to forget it. I never want to forget. And then I realized...like I was shot...Like I was shot with a diamond...a diamond bullet right through my forehead...And I thought: My God...the genius of that. The genius. The will to do that. Perfect, genuine, complete, crystalline, pure. And then I realized they were stronger than we. Because they could stand that these were not monsters...These were men...trained cadres...these men who fought with their hearts, who had families, who had children, who were filled with love...but they had the strength...the strength...to do that. If I had ten divisions of those men our troubles here would be over very quickly. You have to have men who are moral...and at the same time who are able to utilize their primordal instincts to kill without feeling...without passion... without judgement...without judgement. Because it's judgement that defeats us. "

23 posted on 04/11/2004 11:07:16 AM PDT by Archangelsk
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